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It looks like a lot of their social media has gone dormant, but their Patreon seems to be presently active as they've posted within the past two weeks. Have you tried shooting them an e-mail? It looks like there's one listed on their contact form.
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Isn’t there any way to get my commission without posting a beware?
baja replied to Shep's topic in Advice for Commissioners
I'm going to touch on this bit right here, since Cel covered the majority of your concerns succinctly. If you, as a customer, have done nothing wrong in your circumstances, then this fear is massively irrational, and you gotta suck it up and push through. We have rather extensive guidelines for posting an alert on this site to avoid the rigamoroll of misinformation, miscommunication and mob mentality that one would see on greater social media (i.e. twitter, toyhouse, etc) if going the route of the "callout post". To retaliate against someone who is only interested in bringing to light some unsavory business practices when the customer has done nothing to warrant that attitude will only serve to reflect negatively on the individual who retaliates in that matter. I'll level with you, my first official beware here (before migrating to the present website) was regarding an IMMENSELY popular artist who had a huge following! This person even publicly trashed me, all because I wanted some edits to my final product-- a service they extended to me of their own accord. My situation was a "resolved" as it was going to get, and it was a learning experience for me as a commissioner, and it highlighted some less than stellar things about the artist. Was it absolutely terrifying to speak up? Yes. Do I regret ever speaking up? Hell no! Even if my situation was one in a million, or a weird one-off, shady business practices deserve to be seen by the general public. There can be no accountability if you do not take a step forward to add yourself to the ranks. Do this as you see fit with additional communication, an ultimatum or a public message, but you leave yourself at a complete and total standstill if you're worried more about strangers' commentary over getting what you're owed. -
When the description is vague, essentially its a roll of the dice on your situation here. What you've described implies that other materials, that do not pertain to the original listing, were in the mix to be used, which logically leads me to believe you got something more towards the "could get more" end of the spectrum vs the original scraps. You're in the right of it to be direct about what you want to see, along with visual aids to be precise about what you'd like to be would be enough to cover you. If you can place the products side by side with what you requested vs what you got and its wholly off? Then its on the creator for not following through with your form. Say like, you wanted to see a purple dragon and got a yellow gecko, that's eyebrow-worthy to further discuss within the realms of a beware post. Just give a good heaping helping of visual representation when making another request of this sort.
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On and off for the past year or so they always mention a backlog of commissions, and they've posted a good chunk of high-end adoptables for sale. Many of them at the cost, if not higher than your commission slot here. So it shouldn't be impossible to refund you if with how frequently these design sales popped up. I was watching them for so long and it just looked like a repeating pattern of 'life happening' so they couldn't work, but continued to do one-offs or open more slots despite journal after journal speaking about people who've been on the backburner with commissions and getting their work refunded. Latiro's mention of the journal prompted me to look at it and the language does come off real scummy and manipulative, imo. I've interpreted it as blaming a fed-up commissioner for her own shortcomings and lack of communication as the artist to her clients. And like OP mentioned, there's so many shouts with people wanting to know whats up with their pending commissions or refunds, but Mothux is essentially blaming them for the closure of her storefronts for quick cash. Framed in emojis and flowery words really doesn't mask the lack of accountability here. Their work is really lovely to look at, but if they don't turn themselves around, it's going to bury them further in the hole.
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I've supported artists via similar tiers in the past, and for the most part, they make a courtesy post before the next cycle to inform them of your subject for your sketch for the very reasons outlined by the artist you've noted above. I'm of the same mindset of Bornes that if you don't use it, you lose it and tbh? It is not a dealbreaker/beware-worthy that an artist did not deliver on a promised reward because it was on *me* to provide them a character reference for the art reward. Some months I'd plumb forget that I was part of that tier and I would just request sporadically, I was just keen on supporting the artist's works and not my own personal satisfaction, if that makes sense? If you're concerned about getting your rewards on time, it should be on you, the patron, to abide by the guidelines set by the artist you've backed. If its too much to keep track of, then opt out for a tier that does not offer a personalized reward, or just let it go. Ultimately, this is up to the mods on whether or not its beware-worthy, but this is something I'd take as a lesson learned and move on.
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If you join & scroll up in this channel, there's invite links to the "VIP" discord server as well. You didn't need to do anything special to join it, it was meant to be some sort of priority slot list if you hung around. But the discord itself was not active, also worth a shot to see if you can catch BluHuny via discord to reach them wherever possible.
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I previously had issues with BluHuny myself last year. The commissions channel has not seen an update from them since last September, but they did not delete the account where I initially had contact with them for my transaction, the fuzzy timestamp implies that the account may not be active at the moment, but its worth a shot to maybe contact them there? But with their track record at this point, who even knows, really.
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Both names & number tags can easily be changed via discord, which can make it difficult to block people or report them for getting around your blocks. Just as a general heads up for anyone asking for a discord tag, there's an ID that cannot be changed, and its accessible via Advanced Tools/Developer mode, and you'll be able to get a more definitive acct link in the event the individual might have access to Discord Nitro to change their #0000 associated /w their username 😆
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Ah I was mostly curious to clarify that they'd be able to recoup the funds without having to bother waiting for Minami to suddenly turn over a new leaf. And while the piece does retain the look/feel of a generic moe girl, the basis used was the OP's sona, which leaves an awful taste in my mouth overall. If the piece received additional edits to remove all traces of the OP's personal character, I don't see it as an issue... but with how they treated their client makes me believe this was done in bad faith. But at the end of the day it's up to the OP on how they view this, I just figured that they should be aware of this overall.
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My apologies mods for double posting, I was attempting to edit my previous comment. In looking at the artist's twitter page, it looks like they've sold the OP's fursona to another individual? Screencap for posterity. It seems like they finished the image in spite of the break down in communication. But it does not appear to be posted on their twitter for viewing.
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Hey OP, with the transfer of funds in question, how did you send them to Minami? I'm not seeing that in your post, only mentioned. For the most part, with most of the services I've seen used, I believe you're well within your window to dispute the charge to get refunded for this situation in full. With Paypal, you're definitely in the clear as their window is 180 days.
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Disappeared artist turns up again after a year, they owe me art
baja replied to Fauwcks's topic in Advice for Commissioners
You can't let yourself get caught up in the anxiety and the what ifs, without putting your foot forward, you can't make a step towards any sort of resolution. It's as easy as 'Hey I'm ___, I commissioned you ___. I would like a refund as I am no longer interested in the artwork.' If they pussyfoot around the issue, post a beware and chalk things up as a loss. -
Artist Redid Hoodie; Its still wrong; Refuses to do anything
baja replied to theodor's topic in Advice for Commissioners
Is this artist established in their craft? Did they have any TOS or agreement that you could gather at the time you commissioned them? Just on the barebones information you provided, the best way to go about this situation is to send it back and ask for a refund? Or eat the loss. In both cases, I'd think it's at least worth a caution, if not a beware regarding their work. -
You're getting EXTREMELY close to the end of your six month window, Varek. I wouldn't let this go past that at all with the amount of money you paid for the badge, go through paypal for your refund, or you're without options afterwards 😞
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Hey OP, have you tried contacting Bluhuny since you made your post? Local friends of mine who attended PawCon this past weekend as vendors were stationed near his booth, where he was also vending. As I was told by him when I attempted to commission him back in January, he "only" opens up slots for more commissions via Cons as a vendor, so there's a strong possibility that the queue has grown since you made your post here. Definitely push for your refund before it gets buried with his backlog!
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I do have some questions regarding your end of the transaction here... Are you requesting a full refund for this commission, or just a partial one at a loss? Looking at the references, it is very plain to see what was missed, but it does read as your character to me when I compare the references. With that said, why did you provide two different references of your character? Looking at the refs, the colors and proportions of key elements you make note of are rather different between both refs. Its difficult to discern the proper color palette to be followed, the shape of the ears and how much space their chest fluff is supposed to cover. Depending on which ref the artist chose to follow, it is easy to see where things may have been misunderstood from their end. They absolutely should have provided you with a WIP before completing the work, but I feel like this is where you made a misstep in the commission process. I would also take note that English is not this artist's first language, which makes it all the more important to be clear on certain aspects of your character's design that you deem absolutely essential to their portrayal. I speak from experience from my first posted beware, where I completely fudged it up on my end by doing just that; conflicting refs & not being clear whatsoever on key deets. Not a happy situation on that one either. I personally let it go as a loss to myself, and I would recommend the same in all honesty. I don't think you're entitled to a full refund, as the services were fully rendered from the Artist's end.
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Beware: London/Vani/Vanimute/Vanilla Kitsune
baja commented on InklopBunny's record in Artist Bewares
Did you contact Square directly about your issues with Vani? https://squareup.com/help/us/en/article/5060-refund-overview Right here it says you have a full year to be issued a refund for a purchase not made via mobile. You're not without your resources! -
Beware: London/Vani/Vanimute/Vanilla Kitsune
baja commented on InklopBunny's record in Artist Bewares
Square payments are processed through your Credit Card's end if I'm not mistaken? You should be able to either go through the platform or contact your bank directly to force a refund. Vani has one of the worst track records in the fandom, so signs point to ??? on if you'll either be refunded directly or get your items. -
I had similar issues with BluHuny myself earlier this year, but once I made it clear that I wanted a refund, he actually followed through with it. Though with quite an arrogant attitude about it tbh. I see that in his telegram group, he outright states that he should be contacted on his new account? It's really confusing, and honestly, he's very disorganized as far as his work ethic and the way he handles his backlog, so I would not be surprised if it was some form of deterrent to avoid backlash in this format. This is directly from the queue group, but its almost coming up on One Month since the last update they made on it, the 28th, like seen in your caps. I'd say just directly contact him, to at least state you'd like a refund and give him an ETA of about a 48 hours to respond, then go through your credit card company to file the chargeback if he is not willing to work with you. I have seen other dissatisfied BLFC customers posting about him sporadically on social media, so I don't think you're the only one whos wholly dissatisfied with his lack of professionalism with his own work. Oh! And if you still have access to the Queue Channel, it'd be worth scrolling up to grab the ""VIP"" discord link, as it is entirely possible that BluHuny might be avoiding telegram and tending to the other platform. Though, from what I saw there, its a really quiet/dead server s:
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Sorry if this might be an odd question, but when you were prompted for payment, did they make any indication of how to send it? (Like, outside of your posted notes) A few years ago, back when they were actively posting and advertising their icon commissions, when I inquired about working with them, they were *adamant* about receiving payment via gifting options and not service ones; I def took my business elsewhere after that. The only reason I ask is despite the time anyone, yourself included, spent waiting... if he was still insistent on skirting paypal fees... he also sabotaged his commissioners from taking proper recourse via disputes on the platform before his owed commissions/refunds got to that height. Which, boy howdy, is quite a feat in itself.
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Generally Paypal will tell you when the protection runs out! But since its a 6 month window, I believe it would be til October that you'd be able to dispute it. But that's just my math on it haha. But yeah, if not sure, your original transaction should give you the definitive date on that 180 day window.
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In doing a little digging via the page... It looks like the artist they duped in to this commission doesn't speak English natively, and while I don't like to speculate wildly, given the extreme that this individual went to with your personal character, it gives me the impression that it was done intentionally. It isn't unheard of for people to pass off other characters as their own and then pull something like this, but picking someone who doesn't have a fair grasp of the language reeks of another shade of shifty business. Though, Celestina def has the right suggestion that you may be able to pull the images with the support of the very same artist who was taken advantage of by this person.
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did you choose to downgrade it, or was it a choice on the part of the artist? from april to now, your protection would run out in october, not september. and if you're not happy with it? def post a beware/caution about the individual.
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i would take theodor's advice with a grain of salt. you can't predict a minor's typing patterns nor their intent with their inquiries over text alone. someone you might believe is a minor may just be an adult with particular mannerisms, or someone who may not be accustomed to the commission process, so it might be a little scrambled. often times, when i look for artists to commission, i try to do a bit of homework on their art pages or social media for TOS and output, but at times i will take in to account age. since paypal has changed their TOS in recent years, minors can no longer open/use paypal accounts. it doesn't stop them from trying to use them, but in my experience in dealing with minors, as artists, have made a huge deal out of hiding their age to try and get around this. so if it's not immediately available, and they're not too keen on a yes/no question, i would pass on working with them for peace of mind.
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I believe the difference here is that the individual has Ko-Fi Gold, rather than the base, free service that Ko-Fi offers! With Ko-Fi Gold, you're able to offer commissions via the platform in a formal manner. Its an actual commission widget for someone vs the donation doodles a lot of artists tend to offer. So, I believe that the client would be able to file a claim if this was the case, rather than expect to be refunded by the artist themselves. But it is as others have said, unless someone's upgraded to a business account, they would be outing their personal information to the person in question. Which is wholly understandable if you'd rather not disclose any of that sort of thing. But OP, check if you actually commissioned them via Ko-Fi Gold's official commission means, and it may help you file a claim on your end.
