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    JinxWolf34

    Beware: Raverneonlight

    By JinxWolf34, in Artist Bewares,

    Who: RaverNeonlight / Raver_neonlight
    Where: https://twitter.com/raverneonlight
    https://instagram.com/raver_neonlight
    When: 07/12/2020
    What: Other (Explain Below)

    Resolved
    I preordered two pins of Raver’s characters from Charapins a year ago. Cost me $32 with shipping.  He gave me the run around for months after. I even found a post saying that the pins had arrived and I asked there and on Twitter when the pins were getting sent out. I haven’t heard from him since March. I don’t expect my money back and I don’t even want the pins at this point. I know I’m one of many people that Raver has ghosted but I figured I’d share my experience as well. 










    And last message was sent 07/28/21


    SmallDog
    Who: Fruv, Fruvoolie, Fruv#8925, Fruv#8888, u/Meal_T1me
    Where: https://www.reddit.com/user/meal_t1me/
    https://www.furaffinity.net/user/cheemto/
    When: 05/29/2021
    What: Commission


    Found artist advertising commissions on Reddit under the reddit name "meal_t1me" .  I had gotten a commission from them initially on 5/21/21 with no issues whatsoever, and then a few days later they sent me a DM begging me for money. After some dispute over the amount, I agreed on a second commission.   I sent a payment for this commission for £26.25 (£25 + tip) on 5/29/21.
    A few weeks passed with no response from the Artist to which they finally messaged me with that they are "being thretened to be doxed". More weeks passed with no response. On 6/17/21 I requested a refund for the commission. A day later they said they are sorry, they are being threatened, and "will get to my commission ASAP"
    It is now 7/16/21 and the artist deleted their discord and reddit accounts. All screenshots of our conversation, and proof of paypal transaction are being submitted with this post, with sensitive information censored out.
     
    Some important things to note:
    [Mod Note:  We removed a segment on supposed proof of the user "begging" for money.  While this artist's behavior is inexcusable, they were not begging for money.  They were asking for work.]
    Artist begging for money in a direct message to me Artist using multiple discord accounts  [Mod Note:  Upon looking around, this isn't two discords.  It's Nitro]
    Artist using multiple paypal accounts Artist changed the agreed upon price of a commission Artist has deleted all means of contact  


     



    RedSky
    Who: Orange-PEEL
    Where: https://twitter.com/Orange_PEELart
    https://www.patreon.com/orangepeel/posts
    https://www.furaffinity.net/user/orange-peel/
    When: 06/10/2020
    What: Commission
    NSFW Content
    I do not condone any harassment against Orange-PEEL, nor do I wish any harm or ill will against them. Please do not contact them.
    Please know that I am not the only client of theirs that has experienced these issues.
    We both agreed on a total of $540 which was a maximum of 12 fully colored frames, and they included a free climax loop and free background. We also agreed to split up the payments into four different transactions. First payment was sent Jun 16 2020 and last payment was sent Jul 7 2020. I had paid up to $405. The last message I received was Aug 6 2020 until Feb 28 2021. Before that time, any attempt to contact them through Twitter, Email, and their Patreon went unanswered, despite Patreon being their only active platform making monthly updates. I became their Patreon for $1 a month just so maybe I could find out what was going on and as another means to contact them. I didn't learn much other than it sounded like they were busy with other animations, and occasional issues would come up. I only learned from someone else that they have been dealing with lots of personal issues that I will keep private.
    Orange-PEEL responded to my DMs on Patreon Feb 28 2021 giving an update on the commission and saying they were working on a more detailed message that I would receive soon. That was the last time I heard from them.
    I initially contacted Orange-PEEL Jun 10th 2020 on their Twitter. I was a bit skeptical because their account had been inactive for a year at this point, but to my surprise they replied within the hour.


     
    After sharing some references they went on to give me the final prices.
     



     
    I sent some more references and details while getting ready for the first payment.
     


     
    They followed up shortly after with an update on the commission.
     

     
    They gave another update and I paid the second half.
     






     
    After this a few messages about the details were exchanged before they stopped responding. I then decided to try and reach them outside of Twitter, and this is when I became a Patreon of theirs.


    I wasn't able to receive any refund from PayPal due to how much time had passed and sending the money as a close friend/family. I know, bad mistake. Progress was being made so quickly that I didn't think I had any reason to worry.
    They didn't respond to any comments or DMs on Patreon, even when I sent them minutes after an update. The only thing I would receive on their Patreon were rewards sent out through DMs, which felt like a slap in the face.
     

     
    Eventually they responded on Feb 28.
     


    I was happy to hear from them and was looking forward to finishing this up. Never received a more detailed message, just more reward DMs. At this point I want a full refund but I don't think that'll happen. I understand some of the things that Orange-PEEL is going through, but their lack of communication has been very upsetting especially with the amount of money involved. What irks me is how regular they are on Patreon but neglects me as their client (and others) who's spent top dollar. I believe they are overloaded with work and anxiety,  but I don't think that's an excuse to treat a client this way. I hope they are doing well now, and wish for the best out of this situation.
    Thanks for your time!

    dahwchooa
    Who: Caudle/Sibylline Sounds
    Where: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/caudle/
    https://twitter.com/Caudlewag
    https://www.sibyllinesounds.com/
    When: 03/21/2020
    What: Commission

    Resolved
    Caudle does not create art pieces, instead he creates audios that feature a variety of kinks. Things like hypnosis, vore, coiling and the like. He writes the script, creates the sounds, and hires a voice actor for it. He mostly creates audios for purchase on his store at  Sibylline Sounds, but he also offers custom audios of your character. I commed him to get a vore audio of one of my characters. I sent in an application and he responded the same day confirming the details and giving a deadline of 2-3 weeks. (Some of the email correspondence will have weird formatting. This is because I deleted them from my inbox and had to find them in my sent mail. Also, I censored his email, because while it is the official email for his store, I wanted to be cautious.)

    I confirmed the details and paid the invoice.

    After about a month with no updates I contacted him asking for an update and was told there were some delays and I would have a script to approve that week.

    I was never sent a script, so I waited a couple of weeks. After not hearing anything I contacted him again at the end of May asking for another update. He apologized for the delay and told me he would send a script soon. Which I never received.

    After this I held off from requesting updates for a couple of months thinking that the pandemic and things going on in his personal life were probably taking precedence. In December of 2020 I sent another email asking for an update, but got no response.

    Finally near the end of January 2021 he contacted me and gave a short update, including a small draft of the script. I was told that it should be finished sometime in early February.
    Never got contacted in February, so I waited a couple months and sent a request for an update in April, but got no response.

    Later on in the beginning of June I sent another email asking for a response. He replied back, saying the delay was because the voice actor he wanted to use was not responding to any of his messages. He offered a refund, but I declined because I really do want this audio. I asked to be kept informed about the status of the audio and he agreed to send me updates every week.
    After a couple of weeks of not getting any updates I sent an email asking if he had any luck finding new voice actors. He replied that he had and sent me some demo reels of a couple of actors.

    A couple of days later I asked for an update on the script and he replied that he made some progress on it, but was having writer's block and asked for suggestions for other scenarios.

    That is the last correspondence between us. I still really do want this audio, his work is amazing. I understand that creating an audio is more complex than general art. I do understand that delays and IRL stuff do happen. I just wish
    he were more communicative about that. If delays happen I want to be informed and if I deadline is missed I want to be contacted about it instead of me having to contact him.

    Roflfox
    Who: Rose / Africana
    Where: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/rose/
    https://www.furaffinity.net/user/preggers/
    https://twitter.com/AfricanaBBW
    https://twitter.com/DappleQT
    https://twitter.com/AfricanaRose
    savageryrose[at]gmail.com
    When: 06/09/2020
    What: Commission


    Contacted user on June 9, 2020 about an Overwatch YCH for $60 (original submission has been deleted).

    Payment receipt:

     
    Did not hear from Rose for close to two months and checked their page in late August 2020 and found a journal about refunding commissions due to technical difficulties and contacted them, at which point they agreed to add me to their refund queue:




     
    Did not hear from them again and noted a second time on November 8, 2020 about the refund agreement above:


     
    Once again, no further contact after this. Sent a third message in January 11, 2021 which has not been read:



    Sent another message June 2, 2021 which so far has also been left unread:


    User is currently still actively posting to FA, just want to put this out there to make sure no one else ends up in the same boat as me.
     
     

    TheShadowulf
    Who: BrokenVocaloid
    Where: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/BrokenVocaloid
    When: 06/05/2019
    What: Commission
    NSFW Content
    The 5th of June, 2019, I approached BrokenVocaloid on the subject of attaining a YCH of theirs called the "Prison YCH" replying to the post directly and asking them if I could send my own reference sheet via the notes system which was agreed upon. (First picture) And on the same day, I sent the payment which was accepted. (Second picture)
    Around that time, BrokenVocaloid was going through lots of stress, stating said stress through journals, and expressing their frustrations through art, explaining their situation and saying about how their rent was the main reason behind the delays in art. About a month later, Jul 19th, 2019, I sent her a note, asking if it had been done as of yet. At the time I was very timid, and felt bad for asking, even though it'd been a month in which I hadn't received any WIPs or as such, messages. I got a reply back from them with the following. (Third picture)
    So, I waited a little longer. As I said, I was quite timid, and felt bad about sending that one message, so I decided to give BrokenVocaloid some space, and forgot about it...
    ...Until I realised how long it had been since I had heard anything. (Fourth picture) September 4th, 2020. I like to think I'm pretty patient, but there is a limit. I constructed a message, and sent it off asking if there were any updates. What followed was a conversation that started with them saying they would check to see if my commission was done. September 13th, 2020. I personally looked through their gallery, making sure to double check it for my promised piece, and could not find it. I waited a little longer as I felt I might be harrassing them and did not want to cause drama or more stress. So I... Waited another month. October 11th, 2020 To which I asked if they'd found it, to which they replied, explaining they were very busy with work. (Fifth picture) And as the naive, timid person I am, afraid of making them angry, I refrained from messaging them, which I regret. Because it now brings us to the present day.
    April 27th, 2021 I asked if there were any updates regarding the commission. Waiting two years now, I was starting to realise I would probably never receive the artwork, but decided to persist. (Sixth picture) They told me they were still trying to get a lot finished up. This time I didn't wait a month, or leave it for longer, I messaged them a few days later asking if they had made a start, or finished it. (Seventh picture) Which takes us now to June 26th, 2021.
    BrokenVocaloid explains that they had been fighting with the mods and in parenthesis, "again", but did not elaborate. They said they would be sending it out tomorrow, and thanked me for their patience.
     Jun 29, 2021 - Jun 30, 2021 (Eighth & Ninth picture) Pretty much explains the rest of it. They did not deliver. They did not finish it. I haven't received a single WIP which makes me question if they ever even made a start on it.
    I understand that I made a lot of mistakes during this communication. I could have gotten a refund back, I should have acted upon that. I made the mistake of trusting BrokenVocaloid. I had commissioned her before, so I believed that it would've been fine, wanted to be understanding and friendly as to not put her under pressure. I apply the same to any other artists; It takes time to create art, and I'm willing to wait. But there is a limit to that patience, and at that point I feel more hurt that they keep attempting to keep the charade going of getting my commission done, than just telling me the truth and that they've not made any progress on it at all.
    Trying to go back to the original post is in error, due to the YCH being removed by BrokenVocaloid at an unknown time, to which I provided proof for that. (Tenth picture)
    My last word on the subject is that I'd recommend you don't buy from this artist... Even if you have a lot of patience, it's not worth it.










    MasonCollie
    Who: BlazingIfrit
    Where: https://twitter.com/ifritlair?s=21
    https://www.furaffinity.net/user/blazingifrit/
    When: 06/28/2020
    What: Commission


    I paid for a full body piece of Blazing Ifrit's commission which happened in June of last year. I was happy that he was sending me WIPs of my commission but I noticed he started taking other commissions as well which he hasn't fulfilled mine yet. When I asked him why the commission wasn't finished yet, he basically said that he was having a difficult time with his friend (or sister) with their suicidal thoughts. 
    I cut him slack because he was going through a hard time. After a couple months , I poked him seeing how he was and if there was any progress at all. He gave me one more WIP on FurAffinity but after that, he hasn't been giving me updates or WIPs at all. Today, I asked him if I could get a refund and waiting to hear back from him. This artist should be avoided due to their lack of communication and lack of service. 
     
     





     




     






    MasonCollie
    Who: oCe
    Where: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/oce
    When: 06/02/2017
    What: Commission


    Our agreement was that the artist was gonna do a half body commission back in June of 2017. And after we have discussed details and I sent the details over to them, they acknowledged that everything was filled out correctly and payment will be sent shortly. After I have sent the payment, they acknowledged that they received the payment from me saying that they'll start working on the commission. 
    Since then, I have received no updates from them regarding my commission and have emailed them multiple times but I still have gotten no response. I was infuriated at this point. It irks me that I was given no WIPs and no updates after I responded to her email after email. Along with this artist beware post I have posted pictures as proof of our conversations.  

     







    Kaithral
    Who: BrokenVocaloid
    Where: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/BrokenVocaloid
    https://www.furaffinity.net/user/cielkuro/
    https://www.furaffinity.net/user/doggietreats/
    When: 06/17/2020
    What: Commission
    NSFW Content
    So this starts on June 17th, 2020 when I commissioned them for a $20 YCH. I'm also in the market for a new reference sheet at the time, so we briefly discuss that as well. (Please note that the original YCH posting I won appears to have been taken down, however with how many YCHes the artists generally posts it's a non-zero chance that I'm just unable to find it).



    I completely forget about it and don't hear anything until March 8th, 2021, when I get this note. 

    I assume there will be updates there so I join. Turns out she calls the server "BrokenVocaloid's Good Boys" and everyone who's commissioned her gets the role "good boy". I mention I'd like her to create another role maybe called "Good girl" due to myself being transgender and being called a "good boy" causing dysphoria. She doesn't discuss anything with anyone, over reacts, and completely revamps the server. (I did not take screenshots of this, and have since been removed from the server). I feel horrible about doing this to her out of nowhere, so I ask to support her at her "Golden Children" tier, which is supposed to come with benefits like free art, etc, etc.

    As mentioned earlier, when I got the YCH I told her I might be interested in a ref. Again, I felt bad I caused her to completely redo her server, so I moved forward and asked for a ref of Ruby.




    I don't hear anything that week. So on the 16th, I ask for an update on the WIP. I only asked for the update because she said she'd send the WIP within the week, normally I give artists like a month before I poke them for an update unless they give me an expectation. She ignores me. I ask again on the 19th. She ignores me.

    On the 24th I message her again. She points to the fact her grandmother was testing for cancer as the reason I don't have the WIP (this was posted on her journal on furaffinity here https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9797437/, and is public knowledge). I'd also asked about the YCH which at the time was 9 months overdue before her grandmother went into testing. She dodged that question. I backed down since I figured she was grieving. Ends with "I'll do it now", setting another expectation.


    On 4/3, I realize I might never get the ref, so I hedge my bets. I like getting all my refs from the same person, so I ask her if she can switch to my Umbreon character instead as I care much less about that reference sheet. She says she's already started working on Ruby.

    On 4/13, She randomly solicits me for another commission since she functionally needs something for her portfolio. I still feel bad from the original interaction in her server, so I accept. Note that she said "I will have ALOT of wips for ya tomorrow"



    On 4/17 I message again. She says she can send the WIPs that evening. She then sends me a discord invite to her streaming server, so I figure she's gonna stream herself working on my commission. She spends the entire evening streaming other people's commissions, and I feel extremely disappointed. So I message her again on 4/18, I'm ignored.

    4/19 I write up a small wall of explanation of why I'm upset doing my best to be reasonable and professional. I get another story as to why she doesn't have them done, I'm willing to accept it at face value because things happen, and it's a somewhat reasonable story.

     
    By 5/7 I'm sick of asking for updates. I at this point noticed her artist bewares and saw someone reference her having a trello in one of them, so I ask her for it. Ignored. 5 days on 5/12 later I message her again, she doesn't even answer the question I asked at first.


    On 5/19 I reach a point of frustration where I tell her I don't want the art anymore and tell her to just not bother. She's been posting a lot of YCHes and saying she needs money for food, so I'm willing to let her keep the money as I'd feel bad taking that money away from her.

    This is the image I sent her in the previous screenshot.

    She says she's not going to keep the money without doing the work, so I relent. She says it'll be out within the week again.

    On 5/27 I ask for a refund because frankly she basically begged to be allowed to finish the commissions and then ignored her own deadline without even bothering to communicate once again. I clearly state that I'd like it back within 2 weeks or I will be filing a chargeback as I've seen other people here have issues getting refunds. I still forgive the $25 from the "Golden Child" tier because there was no direct tangible agreement there, and I feel like asking for that refund would be unreasonable. Her comment "I have a life and stuff happeend personally i had to take care of ^^; I know people dont care about that so I dont push it on them" felt like a personal attack implying I don't care about her at all, which feels completely unwarranted.

    Discussion about the refund. I suspect she sketched out that "WIP" in the hour and a half between my message and her message just based on how resistant to showing me she was right up until that point, the fact her explanation makes no sense, as well as the fact that the change in the way she types (using the ~ at the end of the sentence for example) comes off as smug in some way. 


    Today (6/13) I still haven't received the refund. She's stated I'll have it tomorrow, so I'm giving her a single final chance to follow through, otherwise I'll be filing the chargeback.

    I strongly recommend you do not work with this person under any circumstances. The entire interaction felt disrespectful, disingenuous, and like a long string of excuses for the fact she takes on more work than she can handle with no intention of ever completing it, and I'd estimate that your odds of getting your commissions are a coin flip at best. I will be genuinely impressed if I get the refund I've been promised at this point.

    Bayshore
    Who: Onnanoko
    Where: https://twitter.com/onnanono?lang=en
    https://onnanokoart.wixsite.com/onnanoko
    When: 02/25/2020
    What: Commission


    - At TFF I commissioned Onnanoko to create an articulated badge.  The price for the badge was $100, $50 of which was paid up front.  The original plan was for me to pick up the badge at BLFC 2020.  When BLFC 2020 was canceled I said that I would pay for the badge to be shipped. 

    Onnanoko replied, 'that is very kind of you, thank you ^^'  That was April 19, 2020.  14 months ago.  That was the last message I received from her.  Since then I have sent a series of follow ups, none of which have even been read.  

    She has not responded to a single request, despite visibly logging on Telegram multiple times.  

    I am out $50.  









     
     
     

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