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Jan. 11th, 2012 at 3:10 PM wolfy_chan WHO: AutumnHoney on DA (previously known as Xx-Manda-Panda-xX on DA) WHERE:(new)http://autumnhoney.deviantart.com/ (old)http://xx-manda-panda-xx.deviantart.com/ WHAT: Custom costume hat to be made specifically by October, 2010 (for convention purposes) WHEN: July 5th, 2010 - Inquired about a custom hat commission, she seemed delighted about the project. Back and forth responses about the design and pricing for a few days. I asked that this project be finished before early October 2010 since I wanted to wear it to a convention, she agrees says it will be around 40USD so I send her references. July 7th, 2010 - She replies with the price of 60USD for the custom changes which was A OK with me. July 10th, 2010 - Sent the required amount via paypal. Payment was received with no problems. July 11th, 2010 - Set up a Skype movie conversation with her so she could show me the fabrics she bought for the project. They looked awesome and I gave her the OK to start. August 22nd, 2010 - Sent a polite PM asking how everything is going. No response. September 16th, 2010 - Sent her another PM asking if everything is okay. No response. October 10th-31st - I leave multiple messages on her dash, spaced out a few weeks in between to ask how everything is and to finally ask for a refund. No response to any of them and every message was 'hidden by owner'. November 27th 2010 - Way past due date with no responses to DA PMs, I email her politely asking for a refund, saying I will leave a negative review on her DA dash to warn further customers if she doesn't respond. No response. February 1st, 2011 - I have not tried to contact her since the last email, leaving another post on her dash. No response, 'hidden by owner'. February 22nd, 2011 - She closes her DA account. I leave another message, no response and hides it, reiterates closing the account in May, 2011. January 9th, 2012 - Somehow I remember about all of this and make an effort to see if this person is still on DA somewhere and I end up finding her. I contact her once more asking for a refund and stating I will post negative reviews on her business webpages if she does not refund me. She FINALLY responds saying that I have been 'harassing' her and will refund me but 'don't deserve it'. She has the gall to also say that she has 'tried to contact me' multiple times when I have not seen any sort of initiative to do so. PROOF: Response to the inquiry about a commission via DA PM on July 5th; Paypal payment sent July 10th, 2010; Name change on their paypal clarifies it's them on DA. The paypal notice used to be under their old name. (detail on that in explanation) EXPLAIN: Ugh, okay. Let me be the first to say that I am normally a very patient person when it comes to commissioning things. I myself am an artist and I take commission work regularly, so I know all about commission woes and the such-- but it pisses me off to no end when you get no response for months and YEARS at this point only to find out they moved to a new account then try to say they contacted you multiple times when I have gotten NOTHING of the sort for years. As the timeline states above, I commissioned Manda-Panda on July 5th 2010 to do a custom hat for me and they seemed thrilled to pieces to do it. Price was set, I paypaled them promptly and everything seemed to be going fine. We even set up a skype conversation and she showed me on a webcam all of the materials she bought to make it and they all looked awesome. We agreed it would be done by October so I could wear it to a convention where I was going to sell my artwork in costume. Time goes by and I don't hear anything about updates or progress, so I send another friendly poke. PMs were sent as followed; (this pm was longer than one line, posting it here) October rolls around and I hear nothing back. When your sent PMs are read by the recipent, they turn light green as they did in the screenshot, so I know she read them. I poke her on her DeviantArt Dash to check her pms to respond to me, of which messages she hides or has hidden since then. None of them were nasty posts, just enough information to warn others that I was not given the commission work she promised me and that she had yet to refund me. As I myself am someone who does commission work, I am thoroughly bonded and branded with the business etiquette of it. Every post that was hidden and wasn't responded to was as polite as they could be, asking for a refund and a response and nothing more. In November I send her an email asking for a refund and a small warning that I will leave negative feedback yet again if she doesn't respond to me; I will admit I did sound a bit brash when I threatened to expose her name and misconduct on journals of my websites, but for the life of me she would not respond to anything! She even CLOSES her DA account and apparently wipes off the face of the earth. Finally I say to myself, 'you know what? sixty bucks isn't worth the hassle, I'll forget about it'. ...That is until I found out she had made a new account completely, under the name of AutumnHoney. I know that that is her new account because my paypal statement shows this new name in my history. Loe and behold, same icon, same merchandise on the DA page, and the kicker is that they are taking commissions! I'm passed peeved at this point and do send a harsh PM at this point (not within reason) that states I will in fact post everything to my webpages and make an article on A_B if she does not refund me. Here is what follows; Her reply: My response: I am just... Beyond baffled. Where is said replies? None to my email, none to my DA PMs, I am just -floored- they even responded like that. I said I would not post of this ordeal anywhere until we are finally resolved but I am just blown away by everything that has gone on and this is too ridiculous to keep in the dark. I know I look really bad posting this anyways and using a threat like that. I will admit that I was in the wrong for lashing out myself, but I was beyond furious and will take any slack that comes from that... But was I really in the wrong anywhere? waiting to post weeks and months and years after asking where my refund/product is? This is just a concerned warning for anyone that wants to deal with this person in the future. I can't see how this is all a 'huge mistake' because I have no proof in my inboxes for the past 2 years that they have tried to contact me before this. I'll update on this case if it progresses any further. UPDATE 1: Artist has yet again chose to read my message and has failed to reply with 'proof' that they have actually responded or did work on this project. I'll give it a few more days. UPDATE 2: They have finally paid me back. They did not reply or say anything, I just had money in my inbox today. It makes me think their spat was entirely made up and they never did anything. Just glad it's over. UPDATE 3: I heard back from the artist today saying that they have sent me messages and what's been going on. I feel very bad about their unfortunate things in their life and if I were to have heard about them in messages, I would have been patient and left it alone. Unfortunately I honestly don't know if the messages were actually sent or not and am waiting for a response. If this was a big miss-hap, count the entire thing as 'Resolved' and do not discredit their business over this. I just don't understand how I could not get 'so many PMs' since I get dozens and dozens from other users just fine.

Oct. 16th, 2011 at 7:30 PM thaily WHO: Luvythicus WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/luvythicus/ or http://luvythicus.deviantart.com/ WHAT: Art trade, 3 bags of plushies and fur fabric for 1 drawing. WHEN: May 29 2010 Summary: - I offer free stuff, but first come first serve, in order to prevent other people from snatching up 3 trash bags worth of plushies and fur fabric, he offers to trade me art to hold on to them until he can get someone to pick the items up. I agree. - He receives the items and expresses his happiness with them. - He acknowledges multiple times that he owes me work. - Of a certain quality. - Yet he forgets about me 3 times. - Inundates me with angst and lies, such as not having a working computer when uploading digital work or saying he's too busy when uploading gift art. - Lies, i.e. about being threatened to swindle money out of his viewers. - Currently claims he no longer has the items and says I will never get the art he owes me. Once upon a time, I was cleaning up and decided to give away of a pile of plushies and a few meters of fur fabric. The plushies and fur were really nice so I thought some local furries might enjoy them, so rather than give them to a local thrift store like I usually do, I put up a "free to a good home, first come first serve" post here. Enter Luvythicus. He said he knew someone locally who could pick up a large portion of the fur and the plushies the next day, but that didn't work out. Afraid someone else might come for the items before he/his friends could he said "I know you said no reserving, but..." and offered to trade artwork in exchange for me holding on to 13 plushies and several meters of fur fabric. He used this and this image as a sample to show the quality of work he would give me. I agreed and at this point it became a trade; the items for art. June 5 2010 he received the items and let me know how happy he was with them. June 7 2010 I give him the information he needs to draw his half of the trade. The link I sent him was this one, which is fairly clear reference I think. He complains about the complexity, but if you give her clothes you only have to do the stripes on her face, so. *shrug* September 7 2010 I remind him of our agreement. September 22 2010 he forgot who I am. After clarification I send him the reference link again and he says "Imma doodle her today fer sure x3" November 2010 I leave a shout on his FA page (no screenshot as it had since scrolled off) and again, he forgot who I am. November 26 2010 I remind him again, send reference link for third time. Eventually, on November 28 2010, I get a sketch. You might notice a discrepancy between the quality of that and the quality he promised. I hemmed and hawed, already pretty fed up with having to wait half a year for even a preliminary and being inundated with false promises and angst whenever I ask him about it. But I confront him and tell him this is not the quality of work we agreed on. Same day, he agrees and says he'll draw more. which is followed by another note in which he explains, apologizes and promise to "draw something proper". That's the last I heard from him for months. In the meantime he has and continues to take commissions, ask people for ideas to draw, does a lottery, draws gifts, does trades and offers free art and draws numerous pictures of his character doing the horizontal mambo with other people's characters. I understand people having a hard time, and I understand that paying customers come first. But in this case, I have no clue as to what the hold up is supposed to be. If anything I thought the fact he was uploading work would mean he'd definitely get around to mine, but either he has a 1.5 year backlog or he's taken commissions AND trades after mine and just skipped over the work he owes me. March 5 2011, I send him a link to the original LJ post as a reminder, he says I am not a priority and can't even draw for himself. But uploads gift art 10 days later. April 19 2011 rolls around and I'm fed up. I send him a a deadline, provide me with a preliminary within a month or return the items because I don't think he should get something for breaking his promise. Because he lives on the other side of the country and both he and I have spotty transport at best (depending mostly on public, which costs an arm and a leg), I asked (mutual!) friends more local to him and with transport, if they'd be willing to drop by and pick up the items, so it'd be easy for Luvy to bow out of the trade. He responds by saying he feels threatened and anyway his computer is broken so unless I can teach him to draw out of thin air.. He then makes an FA journal about the fact he's being threatened. Notice how, after a year of admitting he promised to make me art of a certain quality and that he was definitely going to get 'round to it, he goes to saying how he just offered a sketch out of the kindness of his heart. At least he's being honest when he says "I don't care if you feel cheated or anything". My response, also explaining that it wasn't a threat because well, it wasn't. I figured that if it was a misunderstanding, he'd delete or at least amend the post. However, in response to my statement that I was not threatening him, he says that the post is just a warning for anyone else who might suddenly demand art from him. So he knew he was not being threatened, but the post is still there, without even amending the information he knew to be false and he got at least 50 dollars out of lying to his viewers! The obvious falsehood of his post also casts a new light on this one: Silly customers. And makes me wonder how many more people he might owe work to. ? I tell him that, while he claims to only be able to use the internet via his phone and not draw digitally, he had uploaded digital work. I'm not angry, I just want what he promised me. May 8 2011 he's suddenly all cutesy and pleasant again, and asks for my real life address for a "surprise". I am suspicious, and ask him for a phone pic of the traditional media doodles. I remember seeing it, but didn't save it, it was the corner of a piece of paper with some doodles. He said there was a second sheet but the cat puked on it or something. By this time I was getting pretty exasperated with and tired of this person. Can you tell? ? Notice how he asks for the character's personal info AFTER I send him the link for the fourth time. Said link has a full bio, which is part of the reason I didn't respond. The other being that unlike him, I was busy-busy (end of the semester, commissions etc.) and didn't feel like telling him about my hobbies. The link I gave him 4 times had plenty of information he needed for some doodles. Needless to say I didn't hear from him after. Sent a note today, asking for an update, he complains he had to wait 5 months for information he already had and apparently couldn't do a single headshot since and he lost the sketches he already had. Despite the fact that I carefully stored my items and they were fine when I gave them to him, the fur was suddenly "riddled with bugs" and he threw it away; good time to mention he claimed the fur was for his then-girlfriend and he just never gave it to her, even though they were still together for at least a month after receiving the fur. He claims to have given the plushies to charity which I sincerely doubt. Considering his track record of lying to me, I heavily suspect he's just trying to brush me off and get me to leave him alone because he supposedly doesn't have the items anymore. And I'm confident that he will never, ever live up to his promise, leaving his post to be forever unresolved. I would definitely recommend people never give him anything again, money or otherwise. Sure he seems to do some commissions and trades, but why chance it?

One day on October 3rd, 2018, the artist asked me if I was interested in getting art from him. He was offering a discount: $50 USD for two character line art, $15 less than what he usually charges for it. He supposedly wanted the money that night (which I think is a red flag all on it's own), and it was an artist whom I really liked. I decided to get a friend in on this and we decided to commission Synx. He then explained that he needed it for his medication which I could completely understand. We pay and wait for him to be ready before we sent our details. A week goes by and I ask for an update. He says that we are next and he will be able to make our commission in a few days. A few more days go by and they mention that they are delaying our commission a few days because they're making a big move. Like before, I let it go. Later in December, he tells us that he is now busy with work, also adding that our commission has "highest priority." More time goes by... until recently when in another Telegram group chat, I see art with his name on it. We were not the "highest priority." I ask Synx about it, and he now says he is ready to get started. I will admit, that I did not discuss with Synx what we wanted, but I was waiting for him to be ready. Full picture. Note the 2020 date on the top left. I let him know the details of what we wanted all that time ago and he says he will update us with a time. He keeps saying "I will try tomorrow" only to find out he hasn't. Recently, I have been bumping him to see if he has even started, only to find more excuses. He offers us more art in compensation for the lack of progress over the past year. Still nothing. As of Feb 2, 2020, I had subscribed to alerts to his Picarto which tells me when he streams on that platform. Hoping that it would be our commission, I log in and watch the stream only to find out that he isn't working on our stream. I ask if he has a timeline for our art, only to have him say "no exact date." Picture from the stream on Feb 2, 2020. I am extremely disappointed with this artist, and would advise not working with them. At the very minimum, don't give them your money until they are actually starting the art. I love their art, especially since they hit kinks that I love, but this experience was just horrid.

So back in 2018 at FWA I commissioned Kenner for two badges, one for myself and the other for my SO. I was told that we could pick them up Monday before they left but unfortunately we had to leave Sunday night. I provided them with an address where they could send the badges once they were finished but we never received them. A year of waiting later I get back in contact with Kenner and ask for updates, I get told that they're being worked on or sent to me and nothing happens for months. I'm told I would receive scans, nothing. After those months of waiting I gave them an ultimatum, show me that something has been done or I'll be requesting a refund and sharing the chat logs that I've kept to as many places as possible. Doing that got me pictures of the badges actually finished, so now all they had to do was mail them to me and I provided my addresses where they could send me the badges (I moved so I made sure to give them the updated address). Now I'm about to move again, I gave them a day to have the badges to me by and told them again that if I didn't get the badges, I'd be sharing the evidence that I have of them not following through on their commission. Now that time has come and I am following through.

Jun. 26th, 2012 at 7:36 PM prinny_fox Who: Kithylin AKA: kithylinperth Mothwolf alpha.husky Harpua kithylin.perth Where: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kithylinperth/ What: A fursona Hoodie to be made in fleece. When: Payment was sent on January 25th 2012. We spoke on the 26th where he told me he would send me pic of the status in a few weeks. I followed up in the last week of February since I had not heard from him, or seen anything. I didn't get any reply till April 19th 2012 when he told me is had gotten swamped. He acknowledged he had received my dozens of notes asking for a status update. He apologized and promised to have some pictures later that night for me, and he promised to have it all wrapped up & shipped before May 1st 2012. Once again he disappeared and ignored my follow ups till May 30th. Where he added me to his Yahoo Messenger. We chatted and promised once again to have my hoodie shipped out by June 10th 2012. I have not heard from him since. Proof: Original Order ~ http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8965/kithyorder.jpg Payment Proof ~ http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9901/paypalpayment.jpg Last conversation ~ http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1064/lastwordfrommothwolf.jpg Explain: He has yet to show me any progress on my order. This was a date sensitive order and now the date for the event has pasted. I'm out $100 and have nothing at all to show for it. He has yet to return any of my Notes on FA, Emails, or messages on Yahoo messenger.

Jun. 16th, 2012 at 10:26 PM goth_panther WHO: TheUnborn WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/theunborn/ WHAT: I commissioned her for a NSFW sketch of my girlfriend's character with two of her male characters. Screencap of agreed upon commission and payment: http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5460/commissionagreementandp.jpg WHEN: I commissioned her on February 2nd, 2012 and paid via Paypal Feb 6th. Over 4 months later a WIP has been shown, but the sketch is still not finished. PROOF: Payment: http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2864/paypalna.jpg Note conversation on FA: http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1763/conversations.jpg EXPLAIN: I commissioned her on February 2nd, 2012 and paid via Paypal Feb 6th. Two weeks went by and I check to see how things were coming, she hadn't started on it yet but promises to start on it within the week. A full month goes by and I check in again on the 1st of April and she claims she couldn't work on it since she just got the internet back, but she'll be finishing it that week. Mid April she claims to have my commission done. Nothing. She then starts to say its her medication that she can't draw, along with artist block. At the end of April I finally get a WIP and it'll be done that night. After that she starts working on "other projects" including a comic and something to do with voice acting, so again, commissions are delayed. Almost the entire month of May goes by and not a word. The 20th rolls around and still "almost finished" and she's "working on it now" 4 days later and she "loses all her recent progress" because her program crashed and she didn't save. On the 8th of this month she says she's working on it again. Here we are week days later and she's been doing $1 stream sketches, working on animated icons and I'm still waiting. I'm a pretty patient guy, but over 4 months for a $15 dollar sketch? Yeah I'm getting pretty fed up. It sounds like its a case of taking too much on at once. If she didn't handle commissions like this I'd commission her more. RESOLVED!: I received both a refund and the art commissioned!

Hi. This is a story of two buyers who didn't pay us for our work. A little explanation before I start: I work together with FyreDraygg. I take care of public relations and make some types of commission; he doesn't talk to our buyers, but is always informed by me about everything he has to know. This is stated on our Terms of Service, automatically accepted when someone decides to commission us. That being said, let's start. Terri contacted us on 6 December 2018 asking for a Night in The Woods graphic (a type of commission FyreDraygg does) featuring four characters. (If you're unfamiliar with the platform it's Plus Messenger. It's Telegram with a different interface) (I know the correct total was 26€ (6,5 x 4 = 26€) when I wrote 24€, , I made a mistake, but I let that slide even after I noticed.) Then they proceeded sending us the character references. I gave them an indicative date as, per policy, we can't ensure any completion date. I also explained them FyreDraygg will work on their piece (even if they should have known reading our ToS or, simply, my FurAffinity page). We chatted a little bit, nothing relevant for this. They contacted me on 12 December 2018, 2 January 2019, 28-29 January 2019 and 7 April 2019 asking about the WIP. As I told them before, I have a proper channel where I send any update on any commission I'm working on, to let people know what I'm working on, but I still accept people asking me privately. Finally, on 22 May 2019 I send them the final picture; I know, we took so long, but again we give no guarantees about completion dates and this is clearly stated in our ToS. Then, problems arose. Again, as per our policy: "A situation where we finish our job and the client delays payment due to not having the required funds available is not at all acceptable and lands said client directly in the blacklist, along with us reporting such incidents to all market platforms." ...but I tried to be understanding: we took a lot of time and I've decided to be more patient in turn. I was still annoyed because it was just about 6€ per person, not a really large amount, but I kept this for myself. I just wanted to be payed, nothing else, I didn't care about judging other people's finances. Then I contacted them on 27 May 2019, 10 June 2019 and lastly 21 June 2019. It was becoming a large problem because I had to file my tax declaration and I needed this payment to be done asap. I also explained this problem to them. Then, they forwarded a message from another person (a friend who was taking part to this commission), apologizing and promising we will receive payment very soon (I'm censoring personal emails & Paypal addresses). Then, suddenly they asked to change the price because "2 of the characters weren't used at all". We had been graceful enough to decline charging them extra delay fees when offered, the commission was already dirt-cheap discounted to begin with and while we took a long time to deliver, this gave them plenty of time to notice they weren't using a character and telling us about it. Furthermore, after receiving the WIP, they had yet another chance to ask for changes, which they didn't and now, when pressed for payment, they magically discover issues with the work. They also complained about us not sending them any WIPs, which we clearly provided as a release candidate due to the nature of the work. Thus, since work on 4 characters had already been done, that work would have to be paid. We couldn't send any invoice via Paypal any earlier because we didn't have any email to send it to; the buyer seemed extremely reluctant to provide any such information and had to be solicited multiple times before complying. The invoice expiration date was set for 15 days after issuing (my email is a public business email, I don't feel the need to censor it) and Maxx promised to pay after Friday (it was June 21, then payment should have been sent after June 28). As you can see from the screenshot I took today it's still "on hold", while the second one (from another person) is paid. Just a comparison if you're not familiar with Italian. The invoice will technically expire tomorrow, but since we are way past any set deadlines, we figured we weren't going to receive any payment and decided to cancel this order, ban these buyers from our service and initiatives and report them to the proper platforms as stated in our ToS. I perfectly understand things can be hard in life, we took a lot of time to complete this piece, but on the other hand if a person commissions some work from someone else, they should keep the proper funds available by setting money aside from the start, not pay at their leisure and blaming it on the worker for completing their work at an inconvenient time. I also offered them to pay after a WIP because I know it could took more time than expected. And again, we're talking about 6€ per person; I don't think someone who struggles to set aside the price of a 12-pack of Pepsi should preoccupy themselves with ordering art, but that's just my personal opinion. These users contacted me on Telegram and, apart from personal emails, I don't have any other contact. I give you name, nickname and id because it's all I have directly; after some sleuthing I found Terri on FurAffinity. Terri J. Flippo, @ZoopLoopz, id: 642843923 http://www.furaffinity.net/user/turriboo Maxx "Wretch", @trashmutt, id: 353535756

zaulankris Jan. 2nd, 2012 12:45 am (local) 1. Foxer 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/foxer 3. August-December 2011 4. He was one of my first fursuit customers and he was a really sweet guy to work with. Prompt with communications and payment, incredibly patient and understanding when I had trouble finding the right kind of fur, the right size shoes, etc. I made this for him :3 http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6971704/ *edit for year change, derp Edited at 2012-01-02 12:49 am (local) latiro Jan. 2nd, 2012 01:13 am (local) 1. Tete 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tete/ 3. pic completed on Dec. 19 4. I adore her artwork and so I jumped in to get a chibi commission from her. She's awesome to work with and is very friendly to responses http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7063127/ latiro Jan. 2nd, 2012 01:14 am (local) oh derp I realized I already made this review about her creamatian Jan. 2nd, 2012 01:16 am (local) 1. Kesame/Sullivan 2. sullivan.deviantart.com 3. Late november 2011 4. Lovely artwork, quick turn around and very prompt response to notes latiro Jan. 2nd, 2012 01:17 am (local) 1. Lingrimm 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/lingrimm 3. pic completed on Dec. 13 4. I've always adore their works. At first, I didn't have the chance to commission them as they only accept Alertpay, but when they announced that they're accepting payments through PayPal (due to Alertpay problems), I finally got the chance to commission them! They did a terrific job with my commission and are very pleasant to talk to http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7027733/ korsetkoat Jan. 2nd, 2012 06:23 am (local) 1. Helical 2. FA dA y!g 3. Three days ago. 4. I've commissioned helical several times in the past, and this is just one of many wonderful transactions. I can definitely say without a doubt that hel is a complete pleasure to work with. The piece I got was perfect, even though I didn't have a ref to go off of, only a description. Helical has a unique style that I just love. Unless illness or something like that gets in the way of things, turn-around is within a few days. I'm sure this will not be the last time I commission them. zackfig Jan. 2nd, 2012 10:07 am (local) 1. Kuakness 2. http://kuakness.deviantart.com/ 3. About a month ago 4. The art is reasonably priced, with a reasonably fast turnaround, and with a rather unique style: http://kuakness.deviantart.com/art/Sailor-Kat-272509581 ; http://kuakness.deviantart.com/art/Puppy-love-253473870 punkspacewafers Jan. 2nd, 2012 11:41 am (local) Soulren 1. Soulren 2. http://soulren.deviantart.com/ 3. About a month or two ago, and right now 4. I commissioned a custom pony seen here: http://soulren.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4ga2qf Soulren kept me updated the entire way through, sent me WIP shots of every step, and the pony was finished within a week or so. I've currently commissioned them for two more and they are sending me WIP photos and keeping me updated with the status the entire time. They are overall very friendly and fantastic at what they do, and the communication is a dream. maractus Jan. 2nd, 2012 05:19 pm (local) 1) Inuamaru 2) http://www.furaffinity.net/user/inuamaru 3) ~September 4) I was hesitant to do a trade for one of my hats, because that hasn't really worked out before, but they really pulled through. She did this piece for the trade: http://www.furaffinity.net/full/6351366/ which was way more than I had expected, plus she got it done very quickly. She's a great artist and deserves way more attention than she gets! houndofloki Jan. 4th, 2012 07:05 pm (local) 1.) Pocketwolverine/Del 2.) www.furaffinity.net/user/pocketwolverine 3.) I've bought a few icons from her, and 1 full commission. 4.) Del's art is *amazing* (adorably cute and stylish) and she really does a good job of capturing the characters she draws. Turnaround time has always been pretty fast for me, and the full commission I bought I was given frequent updates and in-progress shots. I thoroughly recommend commissioning her; she's awesome! Pics (All SFW) http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7014611/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6988729/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7002502/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6906086/ shukivengeance Jan. 5th, 2012 04:57 pm (local) Seconding Del forever! She did this wonderful sketch for me in livestream http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7141702 latiro Jan. 11th, 2012 06:31 pm (local) thirding her! She made three themed icons for me and they're terrific! houndofloki Jan. 4th, 2012 07:08 pm (local) 1.) Rikkitz 2.) www.furaffinity.net/user/rikkitz 3.) About two months ago - turnaround time on the drawing was about 3 weeks. 4.) Fast turnaround, very friendly, and fair prices. And the picture I got from her was *awesome* :D Very emotive, smooth, and interesting! Plus, it's real-media and she was quick to send out the original to me. It's even more beautiful in person then it is in the scan. Highly recommended! Picture (SFW) http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7061572/ torikonero Jan. 7th, 2012 05:25 pm (local) Bix707 1. Bix707 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/bix707/ 3. October - December, 2011 4. I contacted Bix707 about a commission of 7 cats, due to be a Christmas present. She worked quickly and produced a beautiful image that I was able to easily print and frame. She was a joy to work with, always prompt with e-mails and updates. I would love to work with her again! Low-quality version of the commission: http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8872/kaif.jpg timelapsedecay Jan. 11th, 2012 05:16 pm (local) 1. Fetalstar 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fetalstar/ 3. I've done business with her multiple times. The time between initial contact and completed image was never more than a month no matter how swamped she was. 4. She has always been friendly, polite, and patient with my requests. Every note I ever sent was sent a speedy and satisfying reply. She sent me sketches and kept in contact. She completed my commissions quickly and so far has drawn exactly what I asked for down to the smallest detail. She's not even that expensive! My first thought when it comes to great artists to work with is Fetalstar. latiro Jan. 11th, 2012 06:32 pm (local) seconding Fetalstar forever timelapsedecay Jan. 11th, 2012 05:25 pm (local) 1. Orangebluez 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/orangebluez 3. March 2011-November 2011 4. Orangebluez contacted me regarding a sale I was having to raise money for Spring Break. He ordered two hi-res detailed images from me. I don't remember the exact amount, but something like $70 was the total. He paid $200 knowing I needed that much for the trip. He didn't ask for anything beyond the two images for that much. I worked hard to make these two images the most elaborate and detailed I'd ever done, but it took me a LONG time to finish them both. In that time, Orangebluez was patient and never nagged me about them, was polite, helpful during any edits, made no demands of me, and really made the effort to work with me through our business, even though it took so long. Definitely a good customer :] latiro Jan. 11th, 2012 06:36 pm (local) SpazzyKoneko 1. SpazzyKoneko 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/spazzykoneko 3. last night 4. she was offering some commissions via Livestream, so I hopped in there and purchased one. She did a fantastic job on my commission and has a fast turn around http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7196023/ latiro Jan. 20th, 2012 12:24 am (local) SheBeast 1. SheBeast 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/shebeast/ 3. from Jan. 14 to Jan 19 4. fast turnaround; nice quality art; pleasant to talk to http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7249248/

ducttapeninja Nov. 2nd, 2011 12:55 pm (local) Name: D6016 Site: D6016's FA Approximate Time Period: November 1st, 2011 Details: I've been meaning to post one about Dee for a while now, considering Boyfriend and I have gotten a lot of art from him in the last year. x3 Communication has never been a problem, and his turnaround time is incredibly fast-- Usually within a day or so to see a sketch. The only time I've ever had a long wait time from him was when he was dealing with some IRL problems at the same time, which was no problem. :3 Yesterday he finished a quick freebie for me as well as a sketch for my boyfriend and I(Warning: Really NSFW!). I've always been a really big fan of his art style-- He's a really talented artist and a really fast worker. His commissions are cheap, too! I definitely recommend him to everyone. :D nishastar Nov. 2nd, 2011 01:17 pm (local) Name: ChameleonTech/Majalo/TechniccolorTurmoil Link: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/technicolorturmoil/ http://chameleontech.deviantart.com/ Approx Time Period: Sept 18th, Aug 20th, even further back times Details: Majalo is someone I highly reccomend for commissions. Not only is she very quick at completions, but she'll work with you until she gets your commission perfect. I've constantly gone back to her time and time again for art over the year from sketches to custom character designs. She'll even livestream commissions to make double sure she is doing everything correct just for the buyer. What I've gotten custom character design Sketch page Another sketchpage sketchpage for my boyfriend kalika_tybera Nov. 2nd, 2011 01:35 pm (local) Sepia / Felisepia 1. Name: Sepia / Felisepia 2. Link: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sepia/ 3. Time Period: Within the last month. 4. Details: Commissioned her for a custom LiveJournal Mood Theme of my character, which you can see here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6706662 She worked quickly and it turned out absolutely perfect. I'd highly recommend her to anyone. mrst4nkr Nov. 2nd, 2011 01:42 pm (local) Kashmere/Rimsky 1. Kashmere / Rimsky 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kashmere 3. Purchased on 10/29. Finished Sketch and had it posted on 11/1 4. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6771417/ (Barbie-Doll nudity.) Kashmere was quick, courteous, and professional. She was very nice to work with. nishastar Nov. 2nd, 2011 01:48 pm (local) Name: GettinFuzzy (aka poprockgrey and kithkyubi) Link: Company FA Poprockgrey KithKyubi Approx Time: March 2011 Details: I had ordered a custom fullsuit that was heavily padded of my pigeon character, Alar. Poprock and I have gone back and forth countless times on discussing every little detail. She was making sure and double sure with me throughout the suit process to get EVERY detail perfect for my liking. We even passed many ideas back and forth and on ways to make it efficient for me to wear and still comfortable. I highly suggest gettinfuzzy as a suit maker and would surely commission her again. Photos of the final product all © the original photographers photo one photo 2 photo 3 otherscape Nov. 2nd, 2011 01:57 pm (local) Amathaze/Flaredra 1. Amathaze (DA), Flaredra (FA), or just Zan for short 2. http://amathaze.deviantart.com/ http://www.furaffinity.net/user/flaredra/http://amathazeart.weebly.com/index.html 3. 9/23/11 - 10/22/11 4. She was the first person I've ever commissioned and it was a great experience! She was very polite,enthusiastic and had very clear communication. She also works quite fast. I give her a full recommendation. :D My commission: http://amathaze.deviantart.com/art/Dex-Starr-264640876 aerotheacrobat Nov. 2nd, 2011 02:01 pm (local) Name: VellaCRaptor Links: http://vellacraptor.deviantart.com/ and http://www.furaffinity.net/user/vellacraptor/ Approximate time period: First one took about a month, the second a couple weeks, so not very long at all! Details: I commissioned her both times through teenycom and both times have come out absolutely gorgeous! I hope I can commission her again when I get some disposable income. She's worth it! I highly recommend her! The pics I've bought so far: http://fav.me/d4ax9o3 http://fav.me/d4bxxkr shukivengeance Nov. 2nd, 2011 02:19 pm (local) Seconding! I commissioned her about two months ago through TeenyCom as well and received a sketch to approve within days, with the finished piece shortly after. Great prices and a wonderful end result. The piece I received: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6393400/ snowhawk Nov. 2nd, 2011 02:34 pm (local) Acidrica 1. Name of the person/company you recommend. Acidrica on FA/ darmit here on LJ 2. Link to their website or art page. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/acidrica 3. Approximate time period of when you did business with them. Oct 19, 2011. 4. Details: I saw this posted to TeenyCom, and decided to take her up on it. Halloween was coming up, and I wanted at least one creepy icon/picture since I had a little extra cash at the time. Turn around was less than a day. I went to sleep and woke up with a WIP in my inbox, and then a very short time later, I had the finished image. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6700714/ (Barbie-doll nudity, creepy monsterzombieunicorn, the icon I'm using is cropped from it) I have been just amazed. <3 conigliomannaro Nov. 2nd, 2011 03:46 pm (local) Kinas/Kinasaur 1.kinas 2.Her dA 3.09/23 - ongoing 4.I wanted three avatars of a couple OCs of mine, and she draws cutesy like a pro. We settled for 10 bucks a piece, and she began to work them out. First one is the one I have as an avatar, came on 10/09; second one came on 10/26. The third one hasn't come yet but I'm pretty positive it'll go smoothly like the rest. If you check her dA you'll see she's in hiatus, but she has noted me that she's still working on my icon so it's all okay. kinas is very nice and great with communication. She keeps her commission progress list on a journal on dA and answers to notes within hours (probably she checks her notes daily or something like that); she's also very kind and generally pleasant to deal with and her pictures are really pretty. I am not sure if I can link to the two finished avatars of hers cause she hasn't posted them yet and I don't feel comfortable uploading her work on my Photob. without permission, however you can see her work here in the comment box and down my avatars' list here on lj. darmit Nov. 3rd, 2011 01:58 am (local) Re: Kinas/Kinasaur Seconding! I commissioned her for an art card a while ago, and everything went wonderfully. The art was amazing, communication was prompt, and the packing was great. :D (Deleted comment) chaz_gelf Nov. 28th, 2011 02:33 am (local) Re: Icarus Seconding this, the guy is amazing. Very fast work, incredible quality. This is still one of my favourites (Not a commission, but a gift they surprised me with one day that really helped cheer me up): http://not-fun.deviantart.com/art/GELF-meteor-ride-193234877 mazz Nov. 2nd, 2011 05:22 pm (local) Dogbreath @ FA 1. Dogbreath on Furaffinity 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/dogbreath/ 3. 2/3 weeks ago 4. I commissioned them for 2 icons. I wanted one to be halloween themed and the other mountain themed. Both came out awesome and the icons took only about a week to complete once I paid. Dogbreath is very polite and a pleasure to work with. These are the icons I got; Halloween vampire Mazz: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6691772/ Night time in the mountains: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6691784/ mssithy Nov. 3rd, 2011 06:59 am (local) Re: Dogbreath @ FA Seconding Dogbreath, really nice person to work with and they're very quick as well :) Have several icons from them including the one used here. Edited at 2011-11-03 07:00 am (local) latiro Nov. 2nd, 2011 05:26 pm (local) Fest/Snow-tan 1. Fest/Snow-tan 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fest/ / http://www.furaffinity.net/user/snow-tan/ 3. commissioned them on Oct. 3 4. they're amazing at doing the my commission, even though it took a while for them to complete it http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6747888/ latiro Nov. 2nd, 2011 05:29 pm (local) Bizarre 1. Bizarre 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/bizarre/ 3. commissioned her on Oct. 22 immediately when she was opened; completed on Oct. 26 4. she's surprisingly fast with those cute icons and I absolutely adore 'em to death http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6741719/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6743113/ latiro Nov. 2nd, 2011 05:32 pm (local) JaxxBlackFox 1. JaxxBlackFox 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/jaxxblackfox/ 3. pic completed on Oct. 16 4. she did an excellent job on the commission I've ordered and is very professional, too http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6689638/ latiro Nov. 2nd, 2011 05:37 pm (local) fawnbaby 1. fawnbaby 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fawnbaby/ 3. pic completed on Sept. 16 4. her art is absolutely adorable so I had to get one of those "noodle baby" icons. She's pretty fast making these http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6508766/ (the first one in the second row is mine) casteddreams Nov. 2nd, 2011 06:43 pm (local) Moondelle 1. Moondelle 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/moondelle/ 3. Around October 10th. 4. Very talented and usually very quick. She's very kind and easy to work with. I've actually gotten quite a few things from her over the years. She is currently offering colored sketch commissions as well! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6764425 casteddreams Nov. 2nd, 2011 06:47 pm (local) nekophoenix 1. nekophoenix 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/nekophoenix/ & http://nekophoenix.deviantart.com/ 3. October 24th. 4. I got a "pay what you want" commission, so I paid $14 I believe. To my delight, I ended up receiving a beautiful full body piece the next day! Neko is incredibly sweet and super easy to work with. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6736984/ (NSFW) shepdog Nov. 4th, 2011 10:56 pm (local) Re: nekophoenix Seconded -- she did a beautiful job on a "pay what you want" commission for me as well. Super sweet, very easy to work with, really a nice, nice artist. :) (Fast, too!) casteddreams Nov. 2nd, 2011 06:54 pm (local) Ajna 1. Ajna 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ajna/ 3. I'm afraid I can't remember the exact date! I think it was around September? 4. This was another "pay what you want" commission, though I can't recall the amount I sent (between $40-$50). I got the image fairly promptly she managed to pull off exactly what I asked for! Very easy to work with! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6724506/ conigliomannaro Nov. 2nd, 2011 07:09 pm (local) Kyuume 1. Kyuume 2. She's on Yaoi Gallery 3. The commissions I can talk about are crazy old, so we had to check our Paypal history: she has one payment from me on the 14th of July 2009,and has posted my first commission the twelve of that month and the second around the end of August. 4. Kyuume draws very expressive characters. Back when I commissioned her she was taking a batch of low detail cheaper commissions, plus it was over two years ago, so now both prices and style have changed and the ones I paid don't apply anymore; anyway, as you will see in the examples, she improved a lot in her art, and she's one of the very few people I would recommend for commissions (I think they're, like, 3 in total? I've had bad luck in my days). We're good friends, but from what I know she's pretty easy going even with strangers, does her job and does it well. Her basic price list now gives Head to waist, more detail,colour, shading, simple bg included: ONE CHAR: £19, TWO CHAR: £23 + £4 every extra char; Examples of her current work are here (can't see without an y!gal account) and here; the old commissions from 2 years ago are this one and this one. She has never drawn anthro but she's eager to learn, so she told me she's willing to give a discount for any anthro commission she gets, but she doesn't feel ready to draw anything 18+ themed yet. gingerligress Nov. 2nd, 2011 09:15 pm (local) Sepp 1. Sepp / Epicwang 2. http://furaffinity.net/user/epicwang 3. Early October 2011 4. Sepp commissioned me last month for a simple deer costume tail, seen here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6648866/ She was excellent to work with. She was very polite, paid promptly, was clear in describing her idea and even took the time to draw a diagram of the tail pattern she wanted from two different angles. I love it when people give me such specific reference! Sepp is indeed a model customer! darmit Nov. 3rd, 2011 01:41 am (local) Danji-Isthmus 1. Danji-Isthmus 2. FA Page 3. October 17th, art was done on on the 25th. 4. I commissioned a segmented Halloween picture from Danji last month, and couldn't be happier with the transaction. I was blown away not only by the fair price, but by the quality of the art. (Warning, slight gore)Here is the finished piece she did for me. Just...awesome, the style is simply amazing. She was also extremely polite and great to communicate with. :) darmit Nov. 3rd, 2011 01:50 am (local) Lingrimm 1. Lingrimm 2. FA Page 3. October 27th, art was done on on the 30th. 4. I got on Lingrimm's waiting list a while ago, and shortly after was confirmed for a commission slot. I was low on money at the time, and didn't expect to get a slot so quickly (I had gotten on the waiting list when I did have money), but they had no issue waiting a few days for me to get my money together and pay. Only three days after I paid, I got this wonderful icon you see here. For the price, I was simply shocked at the quality. Just...I still can't stop staring at it. They've only recently been able to accept money through paypal, so now's your chance to get some awesome art for a great price. :D The only thing I would note is that they do confirm and keep up with things mostly through journals, but they noted me the final piece and replied to let me know that they received payment, so they don't seem adverse to communicating through notes. Link | Reply | Thread | Delete | Spam | Screen | Freeze | Track This Select: celestinaketzia Nov. 7th, 2011 11:08 pm (local) Re: Lingrimm I second Lingrimm! This is the art they did for me- http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6640262/ Absolutely gorgeous and very friendly to work with. latiro Nov. 30th, 2011 06:32 pm (local) Re: Lingrimm also seconding, because I'm excited about the commission I've them for darmit Nov. 3rd, 2011 01:56 am (local) Murikami 1. Murikami 2. FA Page 3. Throughout mid to late October 4. I commissioned Murikami to do a speed paint icon for me over livestream sometime around mid to late October. Watching her work was simply awesome, and I got the icon I'm using here out of it. :) Late October, Murikami ran into some dental trouble, so I commissioned her for two headshot sketches that you can see here. Now, when I commissioned her, I let her know that she could wait until she either got some awesome painkillers or got her teeth fixed before she worked on the commission. She finished them over livestream the next day. You know what I call that? I call that dedication. Freaky awesome dedication. Murikami gets all the points forever. :I pan_h_shiroi Nov. 3rd, 2011 04:35 am (local) sarah-grey 1. sarah-grey on FA 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sarah-grey/ 3. somewhen around October 2011 4. I purchased two hand made cases from her and the transaction went very smooth and fast. She was always very kind, responded very fast to my messages and made sure my every wish was fulfilled. I recommend doing business with her. :) houndofloki Nov. 3rd, 2011 03:34 pm (local) Magenta 1.) Magenta 2.) www.furaffinity.net/user/magenta 3.) A few times. Turnaround always pretty quick! 4.) Very stylish, fun art and a great take on my characters every time. She's also very polite, responsive, and quick. Really recommend her! Pics I bought: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6601163/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6128559/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5940455/ houndofloki Nov. 3rd, 2011 03:37 pm (local) Majime 1.) Majime/Daggerleonelli 2.) www.furaffinity.net/user/daggerleonelli 3.) About a month ago. Quick turnaround. 4.) Adorable artwork, fast turnaround, fair prices, a great person to work with. Her art has a lot of energy and feeling! Samples: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6042652/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6695602/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6744520/ latiro Nov. 4th, 2011 02:24 pm (local) Re: Majime seconding Majime/DaggerLeonelli right there! She's terrific likeshine Nov. 3rd, 2011 06:59 pm (local) neodokuro 1.neodokuro 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/neozcommish/ 3. mid october - halloween 4. halloween themed commish - i chose for my character to be depicted as "sweet pea" from the movie Sucker Punch. neo has very strict self imposed commission rules (if they don't finish in their allotted time they refund you) so all of their commissions are very fast. i've gotten art from Neo before and it was amazing. this was no exception! SFW but like, boobs. BOOBS! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6769459 vexinglyyours Nov. 5th, 2011 10:10 am (local) Re: neodokuro I haven't even commissioned Neodokuro and I second this. Her work is fantastic and she is INCREDIBLY professional from some observations I've made of her. likeshine Nov. 3rd, 2011 07:01 pm (local) stage 1. stage 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/stage 3. dunno, maybe 3-4 days for an icon? very quick! 4. so, i wanted an icon from Stage... i think i gave "not happy" as the mood. i had a sketch within a day and a completed icon shortly thereafter! very moody and badass, i love how it turned out! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6701825 likeshine Nov. 3rd, 2011 07:04 pm (local) 1. katanimate 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/katanimate 3. one day!! 4. katanimate was doing $10 headshots and i was able to snag one! very fast, great work, good communication, would definitely do business with again! er, if i was able to get a spot! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6696394 adzuki Nov. 4th, 2011 10:10 am (local) 1. Marcothecat 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/marcothecat 3. Just a couple days 4. Made me this adorable icon I am using now. adzuki Nov. 4th, 2011 10:13 am (local) 1. ichiblack 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ichiblack/ 3. Late September-Mid-October 4. Made me four beautiful hairclips which were a gift for my mother. Came out fantastic! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6660014/ vexinglyyours Nov. 5th, 2011 10:16 am (local) Alice-The-Sable 1. Alice-The-Sable 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/alice-the-sable 3. I've commissioned her a lot tbh... xD; But my most recent was in October. 4. She's done a lot of work for me - including the icon I'm currently using. This is what she did for me in October. It's currently one of my desktop wallpapers and I love it SO much. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6677189 She also did this way earlier in the year, but I love it so much! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5217942/ Fantastic work, very professional and she's a total sweetheart c: She aims to please the customer and keeps you updated frequently as she goes along. latiro Nov. 6th, 2011 05:32 pm (local) Re: Alice-The-Sable seconded Alice maractus Nov. 8th, 2011 06:34 pm (local) caitsith511 1. caitsith511 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/caitsith511 3. ~ 2 weeks ago 4. He's pretty well-known on FA, but I don't see his stuff on LJ ever, so thought I'd give him a nudge here. He's known for his adorable derpy and CHEAP icons! I got this from him: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6744794/ So adorable, only a dollar, and EXTREMELY fast turn around! Seriously, I'm talking an hour, at the most. He's very friendly and a great artist =] latiro Nov. 13th, 2011 10:31 pm (local) killercupcakes 1. killercupcakes/KC-Commissions 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/killercupcakes / http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kc-commissions/ 3. commissioned them on 11/09 and the pic's completed today 4. friendly to talk to/deal with, fast commission turnaround, great art quality http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6851765/ latiro Nov. 13th, 2011 10:34 pm (local) Gockt 1. Gockt 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/gockt/ 3. Oct. 27 4. she's pretty fast with my Halloween icon, even streamed it. It came out very nice http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6746847/ latiro Nov. 13th, 2011 10:35 pm (local) pocketwolverine 1. pocketwolverine 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/pocketwolverine/ 3. completed on Nov. 11 4. fast icon turnaround, excellent quality http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6839721/ latiro Nov. 22nd, 2011 08:34 pm (local) Spearfrost 1. Spearfrost 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/spearfrost/ 3. done on 11/22 4. brilliant art quality, brilliant professionalism, brilliant overall. Worth commissioning http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898712/ (contains some blood) latiro Nov. 23rd, 2011 03:44 am (local) Faint 1. Faint 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/faint/ 3. commissioned him on 11/10; completed in 11/23 4. excellent art quality and very professional. Also worth commissioning http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6904160/ chaz_gelf Nov. 28th, 2011 02:42 am (local) Kiki-UMA 1. Kiki-UMA. 2. https://www.furaffinity.net/user/kiki-uma 3. November 22nd - November 24th 4. Along with regular commissions, Kiki has been doing "Dogeza" icons, $5 icons of your character in the dogeza posture (bowing down to show deep respect for someone). Her style is amazing, she works amazingly quickly, and the icons are absolutely adorable. I've got the one I commissioned as my icon right now! blinkerbee Nov. 28th, 2011 11:21 am (local) Re: Kiki-UMA Seconding this! :) crazy_onna Dec. 1st, 2011 11:44 am (local) Nilalkar 1. Nilalkar 2. http://nilalkar.deviantart.com 3. Nov 18th-Dec 1st 4. It was a prize that they offered for a contest. First off, the organizer of the contest had forgotten to mention the prizes from this artist, so it was a pleasant surprise to receive a note from Nilalkar. This person was very polite throughout the entire transaction and was clear on telling me what to expect from them. They also gave me more than I was expecting: sending me two WIPs, allowing changes to be requested and keeping me updated on their progress. Once the portrait was completed, I was linked to two copies: a printable version and a web version. http://nilalkar.deviantart.com/art/Prize-Art-Cambria-271832246

Dec. 2nd, 2011 at 9:59 PM jackrow WHO: Rainhopper / Toast Rabbit WHERE: Rainhopper OR at Toastrabbit WHAT: Not willing to pay commission price he owe me. WHEN: Ordered at 2009 July 25. - Picture received at approximately 2010 August. Payment haven't arrived ever since from him. PROOF and STORY: There were a commissioner, called Rainhopper, also known as Toastrabbit in his actual name. He once commissioned me for a highly detailed artwork which would cost him 60 Euro, which is approximately equal to 80 USD. We discussed every single detail together to its finest. The communications are held upon Furaffinity's notes and GMail's e-mailing systems sometimes when we had doubts about things. Times have passed, and I have to admit I've got some complications with school and whatnot during the time and it kept for about almost a year which I felt myself ashamed, but once I've got some free time to finish what I was about to tell to be finished, I finally did what I promised and sent the original high resolution picture to him via e-mail in hope to get paid but only a somewhat short but still a modest thank you e-mail has been received and nothing more. The picture I did with such effort can be found here now here (since either him or the mods have removed it - EDIT: 2011.dec.04.) Though the description says that Jako did it, it was my former account and as the account journal says I moved to the newest location, just in case if someone is in doubt if it's about me or an other person, I just told it right here. However I uploaded it to my Furaffinity gallery, I've entitled it with a NOT PAID tag right infront of the title, to keep it in mind both for him and for artists if he's about to spot you as an other victim of theft. I have been waiting for months then I was out of patience, thus I asked him what's going on with the money? He said he is having complications with paypal nevertheless he's broke and 2 the rantgryphon holds him, which I accepted as "oh well, shit happens, let's just wait some more then..." I was hoping he was about to get that arranged ,but yet another several of those months have passed (almost A YEAR) and still nothing. Then I've asked him the same, but in a bit impatient motivationful voice via e-mail, and he replied the same. THIS is going on for ONE and a HALF YEAR by now, and I'm seriously out of patience, not to mention he dare to attend at MidFur as a Guest of Honor. How can people sleep at night like these? Till he don't pay me off, this thread will remain for letting you know who is about to comission you, and if I were you: DON'T ACCEPT ANY FURTHER COMISSIONS FROM HIM(Toastrabbit, Rainhopper) as long as I'm unpaid. Hereby I'm going to link evidences with commentary. The screenshot cuts have datestamps to proove my complainment. Evidence01 A whole copy of what he sent me in notes by promising this and that right after arranging the details which looked nice and fair so far. Evidence01 supplemental Not so relevant, but the e-mail where I've sent the sketch for further detail arrangement to check if everything is alright with it. Normally I keep doing things this checking way, to avoid complications in details, wether my customers like the way it looks or not. Evidence02 Months have passed and still nothing... Evidence03 Right after I uploaded the picture, all he did is just a thank you, not even mentioning he' still willing to pay me or something which OUGHT to be happen after this long delay if I were him. Evidence04 Evidence05 What? He can even AFFORD to make it to MidFur from the United States?... Okay, where is my diamond shotgun? Evidence06 Perhaps this is another excuse not paying me out...

WHO: West, Westfalen. WHERE: Furaffinity, Inkbunny, Livestream WHAT: A chemisty / Periodic Table icon. WHEN: November 22, 2011 - November 26, 2011 PROOF: Paypal receipt (with West's real name hidden) - http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/269/reklawiconproofreceipt.png EXPLAIN: This really is nothing major, and in the end I'm just posting it as a warning to the community. On November 22 I commissioned West to do one of the Periodic Table icons he was advertising so heavily in places like FA and Teenycom. Communication went alright, and then suddenly last night (November 26) I'm noted about some chat logs that showed up on a public livestream while West was working on my icon. I'm putting it behind a cut because long chat log is long and has lots of crude and pretty offensive language. The bolded parts are done by me to highlight the more important bits. 9:57 PM: westfalen: because, for fucking fuck's sake, I've already done like, two of these, and this is fuckface number three to have the same goddamn character design 9:57 PM: westfalen: because it's soooo original 9:57 PM: westfalen: jesus fucking cockfucking christ 9:58 PM: westfalen: if this keeps up I am seriously just going to lay down line white lines of mockitude until these fucker snort them up and love it 9:58 PM: Defenbaugh: Wassup 9:58 PM: Defenbaugh: Besides wolf rascism ? 9:58 PM: Defenbaugh: err speciesism 9:58 PM: westfalen: I feel sorry for the mothers of these pathetic man-children for the shame they must feel for having borne these sad space-wasting wastes of space into the world 9:59 PM: westfalen: fuck you, generic grey fox with long black generic hair 9:59 PM: westfalen: fuckkkkkk 9:59 PM: westfalen: youuuuu 9:59 PM: RedApeGuy: Yikes!: lol 9:59 PM: westfalen: *pants* 9:59 PM: LinkinArt: haha 9:59 PM: westfalen: sorry. I go into rages sometimes. 9:59 PM: Defenbaugh: Must be a guy thing? ? 9:59 PM: westfalen: hi, Linkin! welcome to the stream! 10:00 PM: LinkinArt: thanks ? 10:00 PM: bostitch: livestream needs a screencap option: ? 10:00 PM: westfalen: it's people like this that are slowly making me hate the fandom 10:00 PM: Defenbaugh: Which? 10:00 PM: westfalen: this grey fox black-haired boring fucker right here 10:00 PM: RedApeGuy: People who's characters all look like copies of each other 10:00 PM: Defenbaugh: snicker 10:00 PM: LinkinArt: Hair on furries gets annoying 10:00 PM: westfalen: hate them so much 10:01 PM: Kardi: I like hair, when done well. ? 10:01 PM: westfalen: hate 10:01 PM: Defenbaugh: Well Im a blakc wolf.. no hair.. 10:01 PM: bostitch: But they are all beautiful and unique snowflakes! 10:01 PM: bostitch: Bwahahaha 10:01 PM: Defenbaugh: ..> 10:01 PM: Defenbaugh: >.> -cries- 10:01 PM: westfalen: it's like, jesus christ, assfucker, I bet you wear a fursuit and then dress up like Sephiroth when you go to cons, you fatfaced ugly bogfuck 10:01 PM: Kardi: But I do say... there we go. XD Then again, there's a whoole lotta blond haired blue eyed people. ? 10:01 PM: Defenbaugh: West has Rabies... 10:02 PM: Kardi: West is in the gee-my-cold-medicine is trumping me tonight mood. ? 10:02 PM: RedApeGuy: When I was thinking of my character, I thought, I can make a character that looks like me or one that takes elements of animals I like 10:02 PM: Defenbaugh: -gets the rifle- 10:02 PM: RedApeGuy: The thing about an animal that looks like me is that it would have to be a skinny red fox.: And there are like 1929209812903 of those 10:02 PM: Defenbaugh: AHAHAHAHAHAHA 10:02 PM: Kardi: *sniff* It's okay, pa,. I'll do it, he's my dog... 10:02 PM: Defenbaugh: -dies laughing- 10:03 PM: LinkinArt: haha 10:03 PM: westfalen: THATS WHAT I THINK OF YOUR LAMEASS CHARACTER, REKLAW 10:03 PM: RedApeGuy: Oh my god, I just looked up at the screen 10:03 PM: RedApeGuy: hahahahaha 10:03 PM: westfalen: I HOPE YOU LOSE YOUR SCROTUM IN THE WAR 10:03 PM: RedApeGuy: I was wondering why everyone was dying 10:03 PM: westfalen: *pants* 10:03 PM: Defenbaugh: -gives West some oxygen- 10:03 PM: Kardi: *eyes it* Sadly, I don't think THAT icon is allowed on FA. 10:03 PM: LinkinArt: I'm choking here dammit 10:03 PM: westfalen: sorry. Kinda losing my shit here tonite. 10:03 PM: Defenbaugh: Used to be 10:04 PM: westfalen: actually, you know what 10:04 PM: westfalen: watch me pull the dickest move imaginable .10:05 PM: Defenbaugh: LOl did you just copy paste one of the other wolves? 10:06 PM: Defenbaugh: You are heartless 10:06 PM: bostitch: man that was awesome ? 10:06 PM: Defenbaugh: Someone will notice 10:06 PM: Defenbaugh: and SAY OMG TRACER! 10:06 PM: Kardi: I notice... I think West is just being a smartass tonight. ? 10:06 PM: Defenbaugh: Apparently 10:06 PM: westfalen: I totally did that 10:06 PM: LinkinArt: Haha tracer of his own work 10:06 PM: westfalen: traced my own work, yep 10:06 PM: Defenbaugh: I endorse smartassedness 10:07 PM: RedApeGuy: Hahah, I wonder if anyone'll notice 10:07 PM: Defenbaugh: I wonder if I could get West to draw boobs in this mood 10:07 PM: westfalen: unimaginative shitfucking cockschlepping assmongering slapcunt 10:10 PM: RedApeGuy: Hopefully no more grey colored black haired wolves. 10:11 PM: Defenbaugh: How about black greyhaired colored wolves? 10:11 PM: RedApeGuy: What.... I... don't get it. 10:11 PM: Defenbaugh: Blakc wolves, with greyheadhair ? 10:12 PM: westfalen: let's rant shamelessly about BLACK WOLVES 10:12 PM: westfalen: WHO THE FUCK DO THEY THINK THEY ARE 10:12 PM: Defenbaugh: NOOOOO 10:12 PM: westfalen: BEING BLACK ALL THE TIME 10:12 PM: westfalen: AND WOLFY 10:12 PM: westfalen: AND BLACK WOLFING LIKE SOME KINDA BLACK WOLF 10:12 PM: Defenbaugh: -represents- 10:13 PM: LinkinArt: Is that racist against black wolves? 10:13 PM: westfalen: totally speciesist 10:13 PM: Defenbaugh: I got a little white wolf in me, and its squirming. 10:13 PM: Defenbaugh: -drum hits- 10:13 PM: RedApeGuy: =P 10:13 PM: westfalen: I think there's a cream for that, Deef. 10:13 PM: Defenbaugh: ? 10:14 PM: Defenbaugh: "I coul dbe more crass but Im scared of West 10:15 PM: westfalen: hahahha 10:15 PM: Grafsburg: Oh wow. 10:15 PM: westfalen: where the hell is Enydimon 10:15 PM: westfalen: I need to thank him profusely 10:15 PM: westfalen: for not shoving his character's bare junk in my face the second I click that link 10:16 PM: Defenbaugh: lul 10:16 PM: bostitch: Is that a maple leaf? 10:16 PM: westfalen: screw that, I'm going to email him and thank him profusely 10:16 PM: westfalen: that's totally a maple leaf 10:16 PM: Defenbaugh: Treasure trail 10:16 PM: Grafsburg: I actually kind of thought you were a decent artist West. But really? Re-using old art for something someone paid for? 10:16 PM: Grafsburg: That's pretty cold. 10:17 PM: westfalen: Grafs, you're a nice kid, but I know where you live 10:17 PM: Defenbaugh: lol 10:17 PM: Grafsburg: Yeah yeah yeah. 10:17 PM: Grafsburg: Whatever. 10:17 PM: Grafsburg: Hope you don't mind them finding out about this by the way. 10:18 PM: westfalen: go nuts, kid. I hope being a shameless tattle tale makes you feel better about yourself. Some timestamps are missing because these are bits and pieces of others' chatlogs. 10:18 PM: Earwig: haha what the fuck tacky shit am I hearing 10:18 PM: Grafsburg: Shameless? 10:18 PM: westfalen: what the, holy shit. ANOTHER GREY WOLF WITH BLACK HAIR 10:18 PM: westfalen: I'M GOING TO FUCKING VOMIT, SRSLY 10:19 PM: Defenbaugh: -pats West- ? 10:19 PM: Defenbaugh: With a gotee 10:19 PM: westfalen: who the fuck do I have to stab to make the hurting stop Earwig: Cil try to have some tact, it's not charming. Some people have doofy characters but you're going to hurt your reputation by being snotty/insulting westfalen: whoa, Sare! where'd you come from? Earwig: Internet westfalen: arite. So, whaddya want me to do, Sare? 10:19 PM: Earwig: S'fine to bitch but keeping it in IM etc is best. 10:20 PM: westfalen: s'what I'm doing 10:20 PM: Earwig: Ranting is something we all gotta do, but this is in a public stream where your customers/fans see it 10:21 PM: westfalen: oh right, difference between public stream and IM, gotcha 10:21 PM: Earwig: They're giving you money so returning a level of respect back to them is the right thing to do 10:21 PM: westfalen: fine, fine. I'll return his five dollars. 10:21 PM: Earwig: Sometimes it's hard as hell, but on something like a basic aesthetic choice it's crappy 10:21 PM: Earwig: I'd ask him first, since I'm not the customer 10:21 PM: Earwig: It's just personal opinion 10:22 PM: westfalen: I hope one day I meet this guy in person 10:22 PM: Earwig: Who? 10:22 PM: westfalen: so I can tell him personally how I feel 10:22 PM: westfalen: EXACTLY 10:22 PM: Earwig: Are you talking about the customer you're working for? 10:22 PM: Defenbaugh: I think West is givign them the money back. 10:22 PM: Earwig: But who is she giving money back to? Because the customer's not complaining so far as I know, so he doesn't want a refund I'd assume 10:23 PM: westfalen: so wait, what 10:23 PM: Earwig: I'm just giving my 2 cents re: business tact 10:23 PM: westfalen: are you friggin serious 10:23 PM: westfalen: you come in here just to lecture me? 10:23 PM: Defenbaugh: -whistles and wanders that a way- Its uncomfortable i here. 10:23 PM: Earwig: I sure did 10:23 PM: westfalen: I'll tolerate lecturing from my manager because I pay her, but srsly Sare, aren't you being hella presumptuous? 10:24 PM: westfalen: jesus! After I did you goddamn favour! 10:24 PM: Earwig: What favour? 10:24 PM: Earwig: The donation for the kitten? 10:24 PM: Earwig: That was amazingly kind of you 10:24 PM: westfalen: you'll stick up from stranger mcstrangeface and not for me? 10:24 PM: Kardi: Then here, have my lecture here in channel. ? You need to put it down tonight. 10:24 PM: Earwig: This is a different situation 10:24 PM: Kardi: I never EVER lecture you in public.. EVER. 10:24 PM: westfalen: christ in a hammock! 10:24 PM: Kardi: Sigh... 10:25 PM: Earwig: presumption is when I don't know information and I just assume shit, which yeah I never do. But I saw how you're acting and it's definitely not presumptuous to say you're being rude and tactless. 10:25 PM: Earwig: And like I said I totally understand the ranting thing, I do it too 10:25 PM: Earwig: But I do it in private and I try to be fair 10:25 PM: Earwig: If these people were being shitheads to you I could understand it but it's not their fault they have similar designs back to back 10:25 PM: Kardi: You are so hopped up on cold meds you're snarly and grumpy and just in a mood and a quarter. ? 10:26 PM: westfalen: actually no, I'm not on cold meds right now 10:26 PM: westfalen: clear as a goddamn bell 10:26 PM: Earwig: Insulting them because of a very simple aesthetic choice in a place they can see it is just really... I dunno. I'm honestly surprised 10:26 PM: Kardi: ... well, then, you're in a mood and quarter. And also, I hope the kitten's doing okay. ? 10:26 PM: westfalen: hahaha oh my god I can't believe I'm hearing this 10:26 PM: Earwig: Yep, kitten is in a really nice place now and taken care of well 10:26 PM: Kardi: Cool. ❤️ That makes me happy. ? 10:27 PM: Earwig: I dunno why you're talking like this in a public place. It's your own noose you're tying, that's fine. I can't tell you how to run your business or how to portray yourself online 10:27 PM: westfalen: look, you two girls have fun talking kittens, ok, I'm sure you both have great cat stories to exchange 10:27 PM: Earwig: Are you drunk? 10:27 PM: Earwig: Like is this how you normally act? I'm just trying to be chill and explain what the hell you sound like 10:27 PM: westfalen: I apologize for all present for having to put up with this bullshit, I'm outtski, kids. Peace on earth. So basically: West is tired of getting nothing but grey foxes with black hair to do icons of, and expresses this by making personal attacks against me and throwing personal insults at me as a person over a simple character design, in a public chat where absolutely anyone could see it. He even goes so far as to copy and paste another commissioner's icon to make minor edits to for mine with the intention of passing it off as fully-custom work like all of his other icons and just getting my character out of the way. My icon, next to the icon West copied from: http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4103/reklawiconprooficons.jpg He took the icon he made for Escafanatic421, copied and pasted it, and made really minor edits to the character: Eyebrows, muzzle marking, and the clothing's removed. He also moved "my" character further out of the frame to try to make it either less obvious, or so he could do less work on it, or both. I'm not impressed. When he gets called out for doing it so publicly, he proceeds to throw a fit and then leaves the channel. To be fair, I did receive the full refund as shown in the receipt I linked- The message that came with it was a simple "I don't think I can do your character right now, sorry!" I haven't received any sort of apology from West for his behavior, but I think it's because he thinks I don't know what was said about me in the livestream. While the personal attacks and this sort of behavior don't bother me too much, I'm posting this for anybody who may be considering commissioning West to beware of personal attacks and less than professional behavior if your characters happen to go against their idea of 'imaginative' character design. --Edited the post to fix spacing, it was showing up as a weird block of text for me. Hopefully that's better! Update: 11/28/2011 After just happening to run into West on livestream, I have severe doubts that this will ever be resolved. No copy-pasting to be had. I recorded every snide remark with Fraps. http://youtu.be/SVtAx9Hdz2w And Kathy had no idea this was going on, so leave her alone. Please.

Nov. 12th, 2011 at 3:10 AM mosasakkine *Edited some wording as per mod request, and a couple more screenshots* Who: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/bunnynyn/ ; https://inkbunny.net/kibafuryo What: My version of the image in question is still on my page, and still contains all the drama he brought in, if you're so inclined to read through it. I just thought I'd give everyone a heads up about this guy. He won a pinup auction from me on November 9th, which was to be finished that same night. He first insists that we discuss the commission via messenger, which is against my policy for personal reasons. He claimed he wanted to be sure we were on the same page and that I got it perfect. I let him know that I've never had trouble following instructions through email, and his request was so simple (going so far as to send me a pose reference he wanted me to basically copy) there was no possible way for me to screw it up. I told him that if he really wanted, I could stream it for him. Which I did, and finished the piece in under three hours. He was pleased with it, so I then posted it to FA. My TOS states that by commissioning me, the commissioner is giving me the right to post the image where I like, and that they in turn have my permission to post the work on their own page, as long as they give me credit and post a link to my page. At around 7am EST on Nov 11, my significant other noticed on the front page of FA, that he had uploaded the piece. Only he had added huge black text with his "copyright" info, and a giant SAMPLE across the character. I was kind of annoyed about that, but since this was the first time I've ever had to deal with anybody altering a work I've done for them, I had not covered that situation in my TOS. But he also hadn't credited me in the description. So I made a polite comment requesting that he credit me and upload the unaltered image instead. He hid my comment. So I made another, telling him not to ignore me, and to please respect my wishes or remove the image from his page. I made a journal to state my displeasure, not once calling him by name. You can see that journal here: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2899677/ He removed the image from his page. Then he posted a journal about how nobody was allowed to post any artwork of his "copyrighted" character anymore, or he'd sue them, then posted the link to that journal on the submission in my gallery. Hilarity ensued. My submission (WARNING NSFW due to penor): http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6828416 What he did to it: http://rainbow-mouse.net/misc/bunnynyn/bunnynyn_kibafuryo.jpg His journal: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2900787/ He posted a ton of "threatening legal action" posts, even going so far as to copy/pasta some legal gibberish from a law site, as though he'd actually contacted a lawyer, and posted it both as a comment and as a private note. Our conversation went as follows: http://rainbow-mouse.net/misc/bunnynyn/bunnynyn1.jpg http://rainbow-mouse.net/misc/bunnynyn/bunnynyn2.jpg http://rainbow-mouse.net/misc/bunnynyn/bunnynyn3.jpg http://rainbow-mouse.net/misc/bunnynyn/bunnynyn4.jpg He chose not to reply to that last note from me. Instead, he went and edited his profile to say "DUE TO RECENT EVENTS WITH A FEW RETARDS ON HERE I HAVE MOVED TO ANOTHER SITE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS ASK THEN BUT NO LONGER GOING TO DEAL WITH THE DRAMA FEST THAT IS "FA"" I guessed Inkbunny, and wouldn't you know, it wasn't hard to find. He had again uploaded that same altered version, AGAIN without giving me credit. This time he had in the description about how he had to remove it from FA because I had a fit about him uploading it (without mentioning my name). I contacted IB support and had the image removed with no fuss. Seen here:http://rainbow-mouse.net/misc/bunnynyn/bunnynyn5.jpg I posted another journal here, still not naming names http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2901363/ Please also be aware that I did not send anybody after them or encourage them to flame him, reply to his comments, or post on his journal. I avoided posting on his journal myself because I was not trying to incite anything. Again, the situation seems to be resolved for now, until he decides to post the image again, which I have revoked all rights to him being allowed to post anywhere due to his douchebaggery. If you happen to see the image in question uploaded anywhere with his copyright on it, please let me know, and report it if you can. I'm posting it here on A_B because some people have suggested I do so. I would suggest not taking work from this guy unless you like dealing with a childish whiner who will disrespect your art and then threaten you with legal action. Why: Not a clue! Added at Nov 12, 14:00 EST: This has now escalated to the point where he has posted a threatening shout on my FA page (which I have left there to make a point), and trying to reverse the charges on Paypal, which I hope to god they don't take his side, or I'll be on the phone with them. Commissions are my sole income. I don't screw around with this. He has also since nuked his FA account and all the comments he made on my submission, so you're really only seeing half the conversations now. I hope my notes screenshots suffice. Added on Nov 14, 14:14 EST: Some people have started accusing me of acting childish and immature in dealing with this, and that because of that, they think I will lose respect, watchers, and commissions. You are all entitled to your opinions of course, but please realize that in actuality, I have had many people come to me in comment and note and tell me that because of how I handled the situation, they WOULD commission me, so I am seeing the opposite results. I'm sorry if it looks like I have an attitude, but I can assure you that unless you plan to act as this commissioner did, you'd have very little, if any trouble commissioning me. I am very easygoing and friendly, and this is a very extreme case. Ask anybody else who has ever gotten work from me. And so I do not have to keep responding to the six hour thing (the wait between my comment on his submission and my first journal about respect): "Six hours after posting a comment on their page, may or may not have been enough time. My concept of time is skewed, given that my "days" don't end (I'm polyphasic), so what feels like days to me might actually only be six or seven hours because I've already "slept" two or three times. I concede that that I could have waited a little longer, but I honestly doubt it would have made any difference, as I'm pretty sure he hadn't read the journal before hiding the comment. I have no proof, but I gathered as much from the way he responded to me." But in the end, if you still don't like my attitude for whatever reason, enough that you think I warrant a beware of my own, by all means post a topic about me instead of shifting the blame around in this one, which is a totally warranted beware against the commissioner, and my reason for posting here. I can assure you that had not posted here, and if any of you who claim now that my attitude has put you off from commissioning me had been watching me prior to this but was somehow unaware of this situation, you either would have a) not commissioned me based on my general personality anyway b) commissioned me and had a fine experience, because I treat my commissioners with the respect they give me, and I am fairly certain you are all respectable to artists when buying artwork. So please. I absolutely get the picture that I come off as immature to some of you. That horse has been beaten, and unless my personal watchers/commissioners express displeasure with the way I conduct myself, then I will continue to conduct myself as I have been for the last decade of doing commissions, as it has not been hurting me.

October 25 2018, 17:48 Artist Beware: Baasil I shall begin this with a little warning. I was uninformed about the actual stipulations of Paypal; I have always thought it was only 60 days, and not 120 days for buyer protection. With that said I was a bit assertive to this commissioned person. I thought my time was running out and dry, but this could have easily been resolved with some reassurance by this commissioned person. WHO: Baasil [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/baasil/] SpicyBaasil [https://picarto.tv/SpicyBaasil] WHERE: Stream: SpicyBaasil [https://picarto.tv/SpicyBaasil] WHAT: This was meant to be a quick icon and a full color commission that stretched at most a 2 or 3 week period as stated by the artist. WHEN: August 31, 2018 - October 21, 2018 EXPLAIN: The situation all started on August 31st 2018… I commissioned this artist in the early hours of 6am, but their stream ran short and they had been up all night for that day. They said they would complete my commission the following day. I am always forgiving and being an artist myself was totally fine with waiting until tomorrow. Tomorrow came, and nothing had been done. I did not expect the requested art of a full color commission the following day, but I did expect some progress on this icon we had discussed in stream before. Shortly after there was a Hurricane that struck their area, no damage other than power outages on Sept 9th … I went along with what they said to me in that journal, that they will be working offline for their owed art due to those who had worked with them prior to the storm. Being patient I waited until days passed. Sept 24th came I asked for n update since their queue listing isn’t quite listed anywhere I can find. My sketch was promised the week of Sept 24th September 24th was a Monday and the 29th would be the end of this week After these following messages my patience became stale and I had to be a bit more blunt as I have seen little to no action by this artist to do their duties. I was giving the benefit of the doubt to them and letting them tackle on a new icon since it’s been rough times. Again another false promise “tomorrow” my patience is already running thin by now. As I do not want this artist do to any more work than is required I wanted to make it clear that this is replacing what we had previously discussed. Now comes the true fallout and where I feel insulted by this artist. [for some reason it has “RE” even tho this is initial messages] This is the point where I thought I am running out of buyers protection and being a bit more blunt with this artist. Tomorrow promises yet again still being forgiving to this artist as I know how times can be tough. Confirming and thanking on the new family member, at this point it has been a total of 46 days from initial commissioning. The icon was meant to be done the DAY after I commissioned them, and the art was to be done in 14/21 days from commission date. Things turn sour~ It was at this point that I thought my buyers protection was running out and thought 60 days was the final cut off for my protection. This could have been so easily retorted by the artist letting me know I had 180 days but they decided to go a different route. Their claim is that they have had my work done, but I do not believe them. I have no means of guaranteeing or not that they had my work done. I also felt sympathy for them because I do commission work too but of a different kind. This was the most insulting thing of our interaction. As a client it is not my duty to keep notes on what you as a professional artist are owing me. This is a blurry pic just where we had a verbal agreement of work we had done. It’s the best I could do I am sorry. Their vod was low resolution. They got the idea of me being under the YCH through my personal Furaffinity Page. As I thought my time was running out I had to pressure them. Things got hostile. They got really mad at me, granted I was being very direct and blunt. I was just tired of hearing the three or four confirmations of getting my art done “this week” // “tomorrow” that I was basically done with this whole situation and wanted my money back. This is where things turned sour and I lost trust in this person. The fact that they are threatening defaming my name even tho my only fault was being assertive made me wary of their intentions. “Rest of refund, you’re even making money on it because I can’t be bothered to figure out fees. If you still action, I will be pursuing theft by deception charges and reporting to FA. :D” After issuing a 30 USD charge when I specifically told them the amount. After this moment I just refunded both their initial 10 usd and their 30 dollars sent. The saga ends there. This was the worst interaction I’ve ever had with an artist in my time on Furafinity. Could have simply been reassured by some condolences to me. Letting me know I had extra time vs when i assert myself threatening defamation. I am not sure what circles they run with, but hopefully I am blocked by anyone who sides with their antics. PROOF: Inline linking as conversation goes on, but will include all here in order of all my messages on FA. https://i.imgur.com/B3xOVqw.jpg

May. 26th, 2011 at 10:53 AM shaneharper WHO: This post is about Dust-Bite on DeviantART. WHERE:http://dust-bite.deviantart.com/ WHAT: It was a $16 digital commission picture. WHEN: I first asked for a commission on December 13th. She agreed and I sent the payment over that day. Since then, I'd sent maybe two more messages, one in January and one in March asking about progress and if a refund was needed. I also sent updated reference sheets incase she hadn't started work yet. The last time I contacted her was April 20th. She hasn't responded past the first day when she accepted my c PROOF: Here is a screen cap from the first time we spoke about the commission. She agreed and I sent the money over. I don't have a paypal screen cap cause I didn't know I would need one and Paypal only keeps information for 3 months. This is a screen cap of the last time I messaged her, which was in April. I don't have the other two messages, but she hadn't responded to me in any message since the beginning. Not even about refunding. I've been REALLY patient, but I went to check out her commission "list" and I'm not even on it. **EDIT** I downloaded my paypal history (something I hadn't tried before) and found the payment and ID number. EXPLAIN: In the beginning, December, I had asked her for some digital art that priced up to $16. Neither of us considered it too challenging since it was one of her lesser commissions offered. She was quick to get back to me, and we agreed on the price and I sent the money over that night. I was super excited to have commissioned Dust-Bite because I'd always liked her art! I don't think she's a bad person but it's not acceptable to leave someone who has paid you, hanging. She hasn't been absent from DeviantArt either, because she's been posting a lot of art since December. And on DeviantArt, as some of you may know, you can see if another artist has read a note you sent them. She read my previous notes, but has yet to read the one I sent in April. I don't know if she's having money problems and can't afford a refund, but she can definitely finish my commissions since they weren't challenging and she's been more than able to post loads of art. **UPDATE** on June 8th, I was contacted and given my commission. I'm marking this down as lack of communication on my part versus a busy deviant.

May. 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 PM jakejynx It's ridiculous that I have to make this post over something so simple, but this person has stopped responding to my emails, and has ignored the Paypal claim that I filed. On May 5, I posted a journal asking if anyone had some sparkle furs on hand that they would be willing to sell. Evilalcarne responded saying she could sell me some lime green fur. I paid $10 for the half yard of fur and $10 for shipping on May 7. She responded the same day, saying the fur would be shipped out on Monday. On Tuesday, May 10, I sent an email asking for the tracking number. She told me that she had stopped by the post office that day, but that her mother had the tracking number, since she was the one who went to the post office. On May 13, I sent an email asking for the tracking number again so that I could be home to receive the package. I received no response. On Monday, May 16, I sent another email telling her I was getting worried. Shipping from FL to GA takes two days at most. Even parcel post is a quick ship. I once again asked for the tracking number. She responded with "it's around here somewhere." And that was the last message I received from her. I sent a final stern email on Friday, May 20 telling her that I expected either the tracking number or a refund by the end of the day on Saturday, or I would be filing a Paypal claim. I received no response. A Paypal claim was filed late Saturday night, and it was not responded to. Today I escalated it to a claim, and I'm fairly confident that I will receive a refund, given that she is apparently unable to show proof that the fur was shipped. Please avoid transactions with this person. Communication is spotty, and she apparently can't be bothered to give you the tracking code on packages. Update: The fur actually arrived today via UPS. However, according to the tracking number on the package, it wasn't mailed off until May 20. That's 10 days after she claimed it had been mailed. Though I sincerely doubt it was $10 to ship, considering it weighs only 11 ounces, the UPS shipping calculator is apparently down right now, so I'm unable to get a price estimate. As if that weren't bad enough, when I opened the box, I quickly realized that it was not the half yard that I had bought. She sent me an 18x18 piece of fur (a half yard would have been an 18x65" piece). That's something like 1/8 of a yard, not 1/2. I know it was not a misunderstanding, since she included a note in the box saying "here is the 1/2 yard of fur." I can't help but think that she purposely sent me ~1/8 yard, and just assumed I wouldn't know what 1/2 a yard looks like. ? Fur 1 Fur 2 And this may be nitpicky, but on her site she has a picture posted of her dog lying in the exact same fur that she sent to me. Though I'm not allergic to dogs, the fur was going to be used on tails that could be sold to people who are allergic. I don't use furs that have been used as animal beds. Also forgot to add her contact/site information: Furaffinity (Gallery deleted) Deviantart Website Livejournal

ORIGINAL POSTING DATE: March 7th, 2011 WHAT: Two digital icons. $3 a piece. The artist was doing a one-night special that got quite a few hits; it wound up taking longer because of this. Fair enough! WHEN: I commissioned them November 17, 2010, for two icons. They had a list of people in their journal, but worked out of order, which is understandable. Inspiration doesn't always work in order! I replied to the journal again December 7, 2010 inquiring about the icons, and was told they had a sketch done for one, and that the second would hopefully be sketched that evening. Caps below the cut will show our interactions. Here's the initial commission journal. Below is the commission agreement, along with my confirming I'd sent payment, and my first 'hey, what's up with these?' comment. You can see the journal (screencap) in its entirety here. Time went by, and I got this PM in response to the comment I'd left on the journal. My reply: About another week or so went by, and I checked in again with a shout, since they'd uploaded quite a few more commissions (all from Furcadia if I'm not mistaken), and I was puzzled since I'd supposedly been pushed to the head of the queue. And then my last shout, left on Feb. 28th. I didn't get any reply, and still haven't. However, I also know they haven't been on FA much, because their last upload was January 23th; their last journal was January 25th, and their last favorite was January 26th. EXPLAIN: Well, the screencaps pretty much explain everything. I noticed their Tumblr account has been kept fairly updated, mostly with personal stuff, so I shot them an Ask there as to the status of my icons. I don't want a refund, but if I don't get a reply in the next week I'll probably try to contact them again asking for one. =C I'm just pretty let down, overall. Edit: They replied on Tumblr! "7th March 2011-Question teahound asked: Hey, this is Teahound from FA. I'm sorry to bother you here; I just noticed your FA wasn't updated and this was. xD I was just checking on my icons! :3 I finished one a bit ago, and the second will be finished next, sorry for the delay ? here’s a link to the finished one: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5126573/" Apparently they posted one of the icons; I didn't see it because I'd wanted the character looking seductive and they drew her reading... They say what's sexier than 'The Life of Pi' which is the book she's reading there, I'm just sort of let down in that regard because it's not what I requested. At this point I just told them I really liked it and was looking forward to the second one. The character depicted does enjoy reading, so it's not a total loss. :T (For clarification - I do like the icon I got, quite a lot! However it's not what I wanted. I'm not attempting to sound mean or anything by not mentioning that it's not what I wanted to them. They mentioned me asking for a seductive icon in the description, so they were aware of what I wanted all along. I don't want to pursue that anymore, and am waiting on the second icon.)