I had purchased an egg adopt for $45 USD in October of 2019. In the following weeks I gave the artist details I wanted for the body and character as they stated an AB would grant this, a full ref, a chibi version, and a half body.
I had over half a year of nothing from them and came back with a question on progress to find out I had been blocked by them on FA and that nearly everything from the account had been removed. This includes the egg adopt I had paid for, which I sadly do not have an image for.
There has not been a single item as a result of my payment to them, no sketch or verification from them.
Below I have posted 5 images of their trello, a conversation in the beginning the paypal transaction, the blocking notice, and an image of the messages I left with details to them.
( opted to not capture as they are in regards to the adopt and the details I had specified I would like to keep private for a future idea of mine )
My experience with this artist has been terrible. Correspondence is non-existent, and she seems to take forever on all of her commissions.
I ordered an emergency commission back in November of 2019. Since it was an emergency comm, I was under the impression that it would have a relatively quick turnaround time. Six months later, and I haven't even received so much as a sketch from her.
Her commission queue is ludicrously huge - I only found it after some digging. I never would have commissioned her if I saw how much outstanding work she has. She even has a queue for refunds. Refunds. The last update to her queue was made in February of 2020 - three months ago.
I sent her a Twitter DM a month after paying for the commission. No response. Two weeks later, I sent another. No response. Fed up, I sent an email requesting a refund nine days afterwards. Only then did I get a response on Twitter. She stated she was halfway through the sketching process, and offered to have it completed in a couple of days, even upgrading the type of commission from a coloured sketch to a cell shaded piece. I felt satisfied with what I was offered, and accepted.
January of this year. I send another DM asking about the progress of the sketch. Again, I received no response. I had been periodically checking her Trello for activity, and it was incredibly slow. I have waited, and waited, and waited, and received nothing. Not a word, not a WIP. Nothing.
I sent an email requesting a refund again today, and stated that I will never be doing business with her again. I will also be warning my friends about her, as well as leaving this Beware. Her conduct is completely unprofessional - and, despite her gigantic queue, she still constantly bumps her commission posts and takes on more, only adding to the enormous pile.
Please, do yourselves a favour and do not buy from her.
User FA ordered a commission, contacted me in a Discord, agreed with the price, after which the order was completed, but since there was a payment condition after the order was completed, he added me to the blacklist and disappeared.
WHAT: Tracing other artists and selling them as adoptables and merchandise.
This started with me purchasing an adoptable from nemi on November 8th, 2019. I paid, I got the adoptable, and for a few months, that was it.
On January 11th, 2020 I discovered by coincidence an image that looked strikingly familiar to the adoptable I bought. I located the original artist and superimposed my adoptable with their original art and found that my adoptable was traced and heavily referenced.
NEMI ADOPTABLE:
ORIGINAL PIXIV SOURCE:
SUPERIMPOSED:
You can find all the screens from the website here: https://sta.sh/22cm0ib5dcr6
I submitted a beware on deviantART, and that was it for awhile. I treated this as a single issue, never heard from nemi, and left it at that. At that time, I had not filed a chargeback, I chalked it up to a lost and let it be. In hindsight, yes, I should've filed a chargeback and should've tried to be more proactive in my attempts to bring this to more light. I take fault for that.
Recently I was approached by a user who was curious if I had known the adoptable was traced and responded I did know. They investigated a bit further and found much more evidence that nearly all of nemi's gallery is either traced or referenced heavily. Not only does nemi continue to try and sell traced/referenced adoptables, but they have online stores that host traced/referenced artwork.
All of these further discoveries happened May 6th and May 7th. As of May 7th, I attempted a chargeback, but missed the cut off by a couple of days unfortunately. I've since been blocked by nemi after they found out about my beware. Hopefully this will help warn others about their practices and to steer clear. I hope I have everything in order. Thank you all.
I was doing a commission for this person who happened to lie about a ton of stuff to me, i canceled the commission and refunded him the paid €51.00 eur
He still had the preview sketch without my watermark to show him what it was going to be, and this person used this sketch, from a refunded commission to get it done by someone else (Later he admit he did it himself!).
STORYLINE:
First payment (€51.00 incl. Tip) DATE: May 3rd.
First Sketch where i was working on it: 3rd of May
First preview: 3rd of May (he changed his name Princess Kuda to Grandma Wilma a few days before the commission.)
First heat in the moment: 5th of May
PROOF OF REFUND FROM ME TO KUDA: 5th of May
First encounter of stolen Art including confession AND Refund: 6th of May
Twitter post by Kuda (Removed by the owner on 7th of may)
Overlay done by one of the Moderators here on 8th of May. Many thanks to her!
End.
I bought a shaded chibi from uwusports some time in early October on a now deleted dA journal, but managed to get a screenshot of my commission in her Trello and money sent to her back in October. It was 11USD
A few months later, I also proceeded to buy a hypokit from her in March of 2019 (10USD) then two more in May of 2019 (20USD).
Transactions:
In total, I spent about 41USD on this artist. Some time began to pass with me asking for updates and receiving little to no response.
(Hypokit) Asking on Aug 19th, 2019 (5 months since ordered); Nov 13th, 2019 (8 months); & April 6th 2020 (13 months), only receiving one response.
(Shaded Chibi) Asking on Dec 7, 2018 (2 months); Jan 1, 2019 (3 months); Mar 11, 2019 (5 months); & Nov 24, 2019 (13 months) only receiving one response.
I never received the update promised in the second screenshot
(I admit I probably should've asked for updates more frequently)
All of these were read but never responded to:
(Unread notes have the icon on the side as yellow rather than grey)
After moving accounts due to a breach in her old account (uwusports) she has required commissioners to fill out a form to get on a list. I have filled it out twice now at two different dates (about a month between) and am still not on her new Trello from what I can see despite being on her old Trello
I am hoping to receive my three hypokits and shaded chibi soon, but I have no idea if that will happen due to the lack of updates. I would also not like to forcefully chargeback due to the artist being in a rough financial position, so this beware seemed like the next best thing to do.
On July 3rd 2019, artist Coyot_Tea opened for headshot commissions for $50 USD over Twitter (tweet announcing this opening has now been deleted). I had sent a private message to the artist that day, and was responded to the following day stating they were still open. I said what kind of pose I was looking for and the artist agreed, and said an invoice would be sent soon.
An invoice was sent to my email address at 9:02 PM on July 4th for $50 USD, which was immediately paid for with an additional $12.50 USD tip for a total of $62.50 USD.
After this point, I did not hear anything from the artist. Coyot_Tea continued to post other commissions on Twitter, and so I waited for mine to be completed. On September 12th 2019, I sent a message to them via Twitter asking for an update on the commission. I did not receive any response to this message.
On February 18th, I checked their Twitter profile and noticed that I was blocked, having not received any message nor having any conversation with them whatsoever since July. Since I was unable to send a Twitter DM, I sent an email to their Paypal address asking for my money back (to no response). I had also made a Paypal claim to get this money back, but as it had been over 180 days since the transaction, I was informed that Paypal was not able to do anything about the issue.
On February 23rd, the artist unblocked me and sent me two messages claiming that they had no memory of blocking my account and had every intention on finishing my commission. At this point, I said that I did not want the commission and instead wanted a refund for the money. I did not receive any response to this message (nor any refund).
On April 17th, I asked for an update on the refund and was told that the money would be sent back to me within the next few days. I repeated my Paypal email address, but again was not sent the refund. On May 2nd, I reminded them about the refund and was told that they were unable to refund me the money at that time, but would try again that night. Again, I did not receive any refund. At time of writing I still have not received any sort of refund for the commission.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HungryArtistsFed/comments/fweupl/neg_user_ububbyclownie_art_thiefscammer/
https://www.reddit.com/r/HungryArtistsFed/comments/gebqrb/neg_uacdcmarvel_lulu_warning/
This Artist is currently Lurking on Reddit, Attempting to Scam people into paying her for Commissions and then ghosting them. DO NOT TRUST HER.
She found me in R/Aeromorph and Wound up stealing 70 dollars from me.
As of this writing, posted in May 2020, I regret to make such a post for an artist that, given his talent, is unfortunately an artist that has given due consideration to list my grievances towards.
To start things off, I had paid for a commission to the amount of $520 through Paypal, for one of his themed stream commission pieces. Below is a screenshot indicating the purchase that I made to that effect:
Having worked with Bad Coyote, and Lobosan who acts on behalf of Bad Coyote in commission related conversation, I admit that I had some past difficulty with one other commission. However, I was willing to be lenient in spite of this, and figured that given a reasonable time frame, with updates about where I stand, it would be no problem ordering a commission for the amount that I paid (the amount paid, by the way, included a tip on top of what was asked initially).
Here is a snap shot taken from Discord initially about where I stood for the piece. Here, this screenshot conveys that:
I had paid for the commission (with tip included)
Bad Coyote (aka BC) has indicated that the "bulk of this would be done either October / November"
Details affirming the commission and an understanding of what I had ordered.
Fast forward to December 2018 (at this point, 3 months later, 1 month behind estimated delivery date)
At one point, I wanted to follow up with Bad Coyote and Lobosan to ask about the commission, so I had messaged Lobosan to ask about my commission
In summary of the conversation made here in the following screenshots:
Bad Coyote was not feeling well and was unable to give an update on the commission
If I needed to discuss a refund, then I would be welcome to ask outright (this will come into play later)
I tried to clarify I just wanted to get an understanding of where I am at
Given the stressful circumstances, I was willing to extend the time I had to wait
Sometime after the conversation, Lobosan and I had messaged to see if we could set up a time to where BC would stream and work on the commission
A few days later, I had messaged Bad Coyote to see if I could get an update on the commission which I had ordered
At this point, I was in line to discuss with Bad Coyote about setting up a session through a streaming platform where I could see the commission being worked on:
A few days later I had received a message from BC regarding the session:
I had no other record from either Bad Coyote or Lobosan from this stretch of time, on any of my devices or chat logs regarding the status
of my commission that I have ordered.
At this point, many months later after what I had thought I had made an effort to communicate my stance and hopes of getting updates on the commission I
had ordered, I was at a bit of a lost as to whether I would get any kind of news, or even suggestion that my commission would be started on.
Fast forward to May 2020 (at this point, 18 months later, grossly behind estimated delivery date)
I finally receive an update, and at this point was in low spirits to a point that I frankly didn't care any more about the commission
This is where things went south fast as I had tried to express my wish to receive a refund on the commission:
At this point, being human and having my patience tested, I had responded in a manner of indignation to have to put up with this:
It is a lot to digest from the conversation, but I would like to offer as much context to this difficult conversation that I went through:
I have been a commissioner for a few years at this point having ordered around 10 pieces or so.
I had thought I had established a good artist / commissioner relationship at this point
My previous efforts to communicate on my commission piece had earned me the criticism from Lobosan to be called a "thankless customer" with a "poor attitude"
My efforts to try and discuss a refund having waited for so long, was no longer open to discussion (even though Lobosan had offered to give a refund at an earlier point)
Naturally I had conversed to Bad Coyote directly and addressed my disappointment in all of what has happened in the span of conversations I had over the weekend (as of writing this May 4 2020)
This is ultimately what I was left with on a parting note from Bad Coyote:
After 18 months of nothing to go on for the commission that I paid $520, there was nothing to give an update as he seemed to have not started on it
I apparently have received the same amount of communication to the other commissioners he had (which I cannot imagine how nightmarish this scenario has been for the other commissioners)
Trying to address a problem to both Bad Coyote, and Lobosan, about the commission I ordered and waited for several months ago, has come to a point where having to ask for a refund has warranted me is "thankless" by the artist himself
Whether or not I will receive the commission that I have ordered, remains to be seen. I have no expectations on it being delivered to me, or that it will be
worth the wait that I put up with trying to communicate to both Bad Coyote and Lobosan over the commission piece.
In all, I fail to understand how in the process of all that I had to put up with from Bad Coyote and Lobosan how any of this could be
considered a "satisfactory mutual conclusion" having been barred from further association when I tried to address a SEVERE
PROBLEM in their business model and interaction with their client(s).
I can NO LONGER endorse Bad Coyote as an artist that is worth anyone's time to order any commissions from. They have demonstrated
poor communication with their commissioners and will attack / discredit legitimate concerns that are brought up against them.
TankDragon ran a Black Friday sale (Link: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/34004858/ ) nearly 6 months ago, in which I bought for $35 (before PayPal fees) as advertised. It was an advertised post about comic-style fully shaded pictures for $35 or more.
The following are the messages (in order too,, same day sent) I sent and he sent to confirm and get a slot for the art:
Post 1
Post 2
Post 3 [5 months later, I ask for a refund request, as he is active little to none at this point]
I have not heard from him back from either FurAffinity or Twitter.
Albiet I did not do much interaction on Twitter to actually talk to him, he has been very active on his Twitter feed just by visiting his account. Plus, I posted when he was most active around that time too, enough to notice the messages.
PayPal receipt:
I did not do much interaction or forcefully getting a WiP.
I do not know how to do a chargeback, I've tried starting a dispute with PayPal because I have not technically gone past the 18- day mark, but there doesn't seem to be any options to do so other than an unauthorized payment (which is not the case). I might check with my bank, but this Covid-19 pandemic might just be that thing that prevents any actual refunds happening, unless you know, TankDragon coughs up his end of the deal.
Even the slightest sketch compensation is something, but we may never know.
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