Besped sent me a note on FA wanting to do an animation commission for me.
We then continued to talk on Discord about the commission. I agreed on having an animation done of two of my characters. They said that the animation would take 1-2 months.
Then they sent me an invoice, and I paid it. They added that there would be weekly updates.
After about a week, they sent me an update. I approved the sketched 3-4 frames, and agreed to add on another bit of animation. (The WIP sketch is no longer present due to them deleting it just today.)
They sent me an invoice for the additions, and I paid it.
I didn't get another update for another few weeks. This update added a few new frames, but did not have any changes to the rest of it. I approved that update, and they disappeared again. (The WIP sketch is no longer present due to them deleting it just today.)
They disappeared again through the Holidays. I messaged them again after the new year. I did not get a response for weeks. Once I messaged again, they responded, stating that they'd be gone for another week or so.
At this point, I've asked them for a refund both on Discord and PayPal. On Discord, they said just to go through PayPal. I have not received a response as of yet on PayPal.
I will update this post once things start moving forward again.
I was commissioned by blake wusky to do a piece for him and as I finished up the piece he contacted me asking for me to return the money so he could urgently pay for his sick dog , I choose to accept this a genuine excuse and his promise to return the money in a week or two seemed fair (I was guilt tripped because who wants to be the cause of a dog dying because you don't send someone back money) I never got the money and when I inquired about payment he blocked me.
On July/23/2019, Exactly 6 months ago, I bought out a set of YCH Telegram stickers from Kaseypaws, proof of which can be seen below.
I have not received a single note, DM, or any other kind of communication since I have paid this artist, and around a week and a half ago I decided to check up on them.
I monitored this note and noticed that It wasn't read for an entire 5 days, but when it was, I haven't gotten a response since.
I could understand If the artist has something going on in their life or If they're still working on the stickers, but I'd like to at least be told that rather than being swept under the rug like I'm stupid/gullible. They've been continuously active on both Twitter and Twitch since I sent the note, which solidifies my belief that my commission has been/is being neglected.
I'm willing to give updates on the situation as It's either resolved or when I'm pushed to ask for a refund.
I've met through this client through discord server as I've noticed that he was looking for animators and decided to work with him. Everything was going great as the client was providing me with references and etc. The commission was a walking bouncy boob cycle and the second option was my choice which was the shaking butt animation... What I didn't know and it was something that he told me last minute after putting all of details and working on the second animation was that he wanted it as a sequence all together which I've declined because that was over the budget limit that we agreed on.
Until the client kept demanding for me to work on their project which I've declined till they paid me amount I've asked (which is half upfront and the other for when the project was completed) for which eventually the client did cover the first half of the payment.
During the process the client demanding as they kept asking for constant changes to the project which wasn't the part that made this person a bad client in my view. But the client requesting changes to where there's no end result.
Also, I've placed an hold on the client's project in order to work on a different project for a bit before going back to this one since I've had another commission to work on at the time before resuming the animation project. During the process he kept asking for animators including from me which I've gave him the name of another artist who was my business and romantic partner so that the client could chat with him. Everything was fine until I've noticed that the client was using my partner to replace me for a project the person already paid for and I was already in the process of working on (without consulting with me first).
Then things went downhill when the project was completed and all of a sudden the client couldn't afford it, so I had to cancel the project.
Before the fall out, this person was using their personal issues to gain sympathy from others. This client is still seeking artists to commission while advertising their condition and not having the funding to pay artists!
Beginning of commission:
Changes:
Asking to work on comm 3 days later:
Looking for other animators:
Request for donations in DMs:
Unable to send final payment.
Proof of first payment:
This is something I've put off writing for a while, but I figure it will never get out of my head if I don't write one of these.
At the end of 2017 I commissioned BadphometArt (now cowboyote) over twitter to redraw a tarot card in their style with two of my characters. At first communications went very well. Julius seemed kinda excited to work with the idea I had and was even throwing out their own ideas for the picture. They told me it probably wouldn't be finished until late January 2018, and I was perfectly fine with waiting that long. we agreed on a price of $75, but I felt like that was a little low and ended up tipping an additional $35; bringing the total amount paid for this commission up to $110
That was when the first break in communication happened. They had a trello, but did not send me a link to it until I asked, at which point they told me that they had somehow not added my commission to it. That was weird, but I figured it was just a simple mistake at the time. (You can see my card on the trello here.)
After that the only updates I got from them in general came from lurking their twitter. It seemed like they had a lot of personal things going on, but they also seemed to be actively working on commissions so I just waited patiently for a message from Julius. However, things became a little odd when my commission suddenly moved to the "finished" tab a month after the stated deadline while still having no image attached to it and not getting a single message from them this whole time.
The next time they talked to me was in April. This is after their accounts had been abandoned and it seemed like they left the furry community completely. To summarize what was said, they were overloaded on commissions and were starting to refund people. I was a little say to hear that I wouldn't miraculously get this art I haven't seen a single pixel of for months, but I wished them the best anyways.
Then I received a message a month later asking if I had gotten the refund. I hadn't.
Then another one 4 days later asking again. Still no.
Then a third message asking the same thing and also asking to confirm how much the refund was supposed to be. I wanted to see this over with and get some kind of refund so I just said the $75 and left the extra $35 as just a tip.
Apparently that was still too much money, though, as I never heard from them again or got any money back.
It was frustrating to have them tease me along for a few weeks before vanishing again. I figured that was the end of it until I was looking through old DMs and saw...
....I had been blocked and they rebranded as cowboyote. Looks like I'm not getting that refund now. And at this point, I'm not counting on it at all. There are things I could have done better. I should have pestered them a little more, and that's what I would recommend other people do too if they find themselves in a similar situation with Julian or any other artist. Having personal troubles is no excuse to ignore customers for weeks and lie about your intentions to give refunds. If they cannot afford to refund they can definitely afford to apologize to myself and all the other commissioners they failed to complete art/refunds for.
Twitter logs:
(omitting my description of what I wanted because it is very personal/vent-y)
Paid in full for 2 Hellboy commissions March 2012, with high level specs confirmed but no completion timeline.
Received jpeg of one prelim May 2013. Subsequent attempts to obtain status across multiple platforms have been ignored.
I have no hope that i will ever receive the commissions or a refund. Larry doesn't seem to be active in the commission market but in case he ever cones back, here is my experience.
On April 01, 2019, I began supporting the artist on their patreon, Highberryfur. The tier I had been subscribed as was to pay for a $160 commission, which was agreed upon with the artist, for context, the "Unit" in the conversation refers to a character within their closed universe, Mecha Musume. Throughout the course of the year, Highberry began to stop contacting their clients, myself included. It would usually take about two to three weeks to get a response from them, possibly more. This was a recurring situation with previous commissions as well, although not to the same extent. I have tried to contact the artist through different platforms: Discord, FurAffinity, Twitter, to no avail.
During the first attempt to contact, on July 28, 2019, due to waiting and the artist inactivity, I had tried to claim the Patreon rewards by themselves as sketches, with no direct response. They sent a previous commission, and didn't reply to my question.
Afterwards, I reattempted to contact the artist through FurAffinity on November 14, 2019, met with the same radio silence.
It has more than three months since I last had contact with the artist, and still they had not asked for the idea of the commission, even though I had pressed them to discuss the idea I had. I had believed the artist to be simply inactive due to personal reasons, but it seems they've been avoiding FurAffinity, my main method of communication with them, meanwhile still being very active on other platforms, which leads me to believe that they're avoiding answering, due to the messages having been marked as read.
Attached are the agreements and payments:
Around April I posted a thread on toyhouse asking if anyone could do a custom of my stardew valley character. Thyouo posted their art examples and seeing as I really liked what I saw, I reached out to them.
We discussed the details and I paid for the custom on April 21st 2019 as shown by the invoice down below.
However after three months of radio silence I was beginning to get worried, so sent I message asking for an update. At first we discussed me getting a refund, but at Thyouo's suggestion, I opted for them to finish my custom instead
That was the last I heard from Thyouo. I've tried reaching out by sending them a message on toyhouse and via email but I haven't got any response.
ive also tried contacting them on insta where theyre active but having gotten a response.
At this point there's nothing I can really do. I missed the window to do a paypal chargeback because it's been 7 months and it looks like Thyouo is dead on all of their accounts. All I can do is warn other people in case Thyouo pops up again.
Sen contacted me through telegram on December 2nd to claim a YCH slot.
The price was set to $15 for a slot, the last photo is the completed YCH.
I sent myself his reference sheet on December 2nd, and finished the art the same day.
He contacts me on December 4th for a second commission but this time its for him and his GF sona.
I sent myself both reference sheets and complete the commission on December 6th,
On the exact dates I completed the commissions he posts both onto his Instagram
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Chargebacks:
On December 24th 2019 I received an email for Paypal explaining that Sen has opened a dispute against both transactions that I eventually lost on January 12th, 2020.
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I contacted Sen multiple times explaining that he needs to cancel the disputes and that he was stealing from me, I also asked to delete the images from his IG. which he eventually did.
His Twitter: Senthefolf
His Instagram: sen.the.folf
His Telegram: sen_the_folf
His TikTok: sen.the.folf
I commissioned this artist on the 8th of July 2019, it was my birthday next month and i wanted to support an artist that i liked and I had just saw they were opening for comms which they usually only open for YCH.
So i message them on the submission then contacted them asking for an invoice instead of just paying straight to them, I was seeming to have issue with my paypal with another person so i wanted to make sure everything was working.
So payment was sent after a hiccup of wrong payment type
I knew it was going to take awhile cause they warn that in the original post, I didn't mind wait cause their work was so excellent. After a few months I didn't get any updates and i was just wondering where they were at so on 17th of October 2019 I sent them another message just asking for a general update.
After their reassurance i was satisfied and continued on with my life, I ended up forgetting about it for awhile cause life got busy and with Christmas approaching. I think around another couple months I remembered and I got a little worried because they had said they would finish it in October and before then send me a WIP which they didnt.
So on the 7th of January 2020 I sent a message asking for a refund, I didn't mind waiting but I no longer trusted them after they said they were going to finish it in October and then not delivering, plus the character I was getting commissioned of had changed in that time.
So I got a reply and now I am just waiting for a refund, but I just want to warn others or have proof for other people that may be waiting for art from them and be getting bad feelings in their gut.
I'll update when I get the refund.
