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Jul. 9th, 2011 at 4:27 PM vibris_sae I was told last time that it was time to make an official beware post, but the artist in question contacted me in the comments, apologized, and said the art would be done at the end of June. I think it's time, though, since it's been nine months of excuses and being ignored, and I really don't want anyone else taken in for more money than I spent. :T I commissioned Rabid Sept. 15, 2010 for three digital busts to be finished by Halloween at $15. After Halloween passed with no sign of them I poked her, and was told since I wasn't first in the queue she didn't get to mine. I said fine, just finish them whenever. I waited until Jan. 17 of '11 to ask her again. She was nice about it, saying I didn't deserve to wait so long, she'd get them done. By this time the person I'd commissioned this for were no longer together, so I made a change and waited until mid-February, when I decided I'd ask what was up. She claimed she just forgot to do them, so I asked for a refund. I made sure to be extremely polite throughout this whole ordeal. She said she would as soon as she opened commissions again - which she did shortly afterward. After I threatened a Paypal dispute (I had no idea at this point of the time limit :P) she begged me not to, since she was using her grandma's PP. This back and forth went on for awhile until she stopped responding altogether. When I posted here to see if anyone had heard from her (and several had) she responded with more apologies and a promise to do the art - not to refund me as I'd asked and as she'd promised. Also in the comments section she admitted having traced over a photo for at least one submission. I have plenty of screencaps once again, if anyone needs proof. Maybe I was bothering her too much over $15 but it's still stealing. I've been contacted by at least one other person who was wondering if she'd done the art I'd commissioned, which I thought was kind of bad form - but it's relevant that other people are being screwed over too. At this point I don't expect to see either a refund or the art, and I'm giving up trying to pursue it. It seems like she'd rather placate people or ignore them rather than fulfill her obligations. ? Edited: Caps: Inital deadline: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture5.png Offered refund: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture4.png Art offered after refund never shows up: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture3.png Art promised in June: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture2.png Proof of tracing: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v40/paris_in_flames/Capture-2.png

Commissioner:Handehog Reason: I suppose I'm partly to blame in that he seemed very nice and easy to work with. I shouldn't have kept drawing for him after I finished the WIP and there was no payment. I finished shading in the image and he asked for more detail. I went ahead and added extra detail and did the edits requested. I'm not going to lie and say I didn't get irritated with him. Here's the full disclosure after I sent him the reworked image: Update (the rest of the conversation where he says he's going to pay but...): http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5207/unled1kv.png

mrst4nkr Jul. 1st, 2011 06:52 pm (local) 1. Name of the person/company you recommend. Kitzel 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kitzel 3. Approximate time period of when you did business with them. - One day. 4. Details: Kitzel (and her significant other Kerilus) placed the order on Friday at Anthrocon. I finished it and had it for her to pick up the next day. They had very clear references on their FA accounts. Kitzel presented me with a tip after she received their badges. WORK FOR HER. ❤️ She's great and absolutely sweet. ( So is Kerilus, but I'm sticking to Kitzel because she's the one I wrote the receipt for and received money from.) skulldog Jul. 1st, 2011 07:13 pm (local) 1. Excess-0 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/excess-0/ 3. Turn around was about two weeks, as stated when I inquired about the commission. 4. Saw artist's banner on FA and jumped in for a commission, artist was super nice, and kept up all the deadlines, and did a wonderful job on the art, I'd recommend them highly. My commissions in questions: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5935606 skulldog Jul. 1st, 2011 07:18 pm (local) 1. Lokis 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/lokis 3. Won an auction June 7th for a pair of Iron Artist sketches, and received the art on about 10th over email. 4. Loved both, and the turn around was above and beyond what I was expecting. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5903560/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5903552/ skittlewolf Jul. 1st, 2011 07:28 pm (local) 1. Van-Weasel 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/van-weasel 3. Still working with but about 3 weeks 4. I commissioned her for a single, two character picture. While she is still working on the original picture (should be done in the next few days), she has AMAZING communication, has inked the original sketch idea she had as well as a little doodle she did ALONG with working on the original piece. She is a total sweety and is an absolute pleasure to work with! tech_rex Jul. 1st, 2011 08:20 pm (local) Seconding Van! nekomata Jul. 1st, 2011 07:38 pm (local) 1. Sarah Grey. 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sarah-grey and on DA under the same name. 3. About three weeks ago. 4. The transaction was super smooth and quick. She handled my request perfectly. The commission was shipped in a timely manner and packaged better than any piece of art I've ever received. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5998155 casteddreams Jul. 2nd, 2011 04:03 pm (local) Seconding on Sarah-Grey! ? tobias_radjin Jul. 1st, 2011 08:46 pm (local) Ysengrin Blackpaw of Running Wolf Productions www.runningwolfpack.com May 10th, 2011 to June 1st, 2011 He was wonderfull to work with and such a sweetheart. He worked with me very closely, as he was making my Feetpaws. He also gave me a free upgrade to the larger wolf feet and that was very nice of him to do so. Here is a link to the finished feet. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5879419/ zyleeth Jul. 1st, 2011 09:34 pm (local) Twinklestah 1. Twinklestah 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/twinklestah 3. About a month ago. 4. I contacted her to buy a couple My Little Pony drawings of my characters and a friend's character and she was wonderful to work with; very friendly and approachable! At the time she was doing a buy-three-get-one-free deal but I simply didn't have another pony character at the time. She was still very kind to offer me the free character and make sure I was satisfied. I really felt that she was happy to draw these for me! I highly recommend her not just for MLP type work, but for her other lovely drawings because she's very sweet , considerate, and professional. I'd commission her again if I could spend the money! The pieces she did for me: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5867213/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5867190/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5867177/ eclairpuff Jul. 1st, 2011 09:57 pm (local) AsydRayn/AcidaPluvia 1. AsydRayn 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/acidapluvia 3. It's been a long time! 4. Asyd has been a close friend of mine for a very long time, but has always been prompt on her end of a bargain. She gets her work done in a timely manner and is a wonderfully detailed artist. She really communicates well and keeps her commissioners up to date if a hitch comes up. She specializes in dragons and just about all things scaley, though she doesn't put herself in a box. I would recommend her time and time again to anyone who fancies her style. Sadly all of my pictures were a personal exchange and are not located in her galleries. poizenkat Jul. 2nd, 2011 01:15 am (local) Sweettalk 1. Sweettalk 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sweettalk 3. very recent 4. Sweettalk has amazing art and always portrays my characters perfectly. i highly recommend her. she's very friendly and keeps good communication. you will not be disappointed with her!! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6041265 snowyedges Jul. 3rd, 2011 06:29 pm (local) Re: Sweettalk Seconding. I haven't commissioned her personally (yet) but I know several close friends who have and they've been nothing short of pleased. poizenkat Jul. 2nd, 2011 01:21 am (local) Ayriea 1. Ayriea 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ayriea 3. not commissioned recently, but requested and traded 4. Zhe is a very sweet person and wonderful to work with. i havent commissioned zher in a while, but i have gotten a gift and done a trade with zhim. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5810830 http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5897357 zhe finishes very quickly and has never disappointed me with the quality of zher work. I highly recommend her. poizenkat Jul. 2nd, 2011 01:21 am (local) Re: Ayriea *zhim gender-neutral pronoun fail, sorry! poizenkat Jul. 2nd, 2011 01:24 am (local) 1. heathermassacre 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/heathermassacre 3. less than a month 4. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6005519/ her hats are well done and id highly recommend someone commission her. they look amazing and charges next to nothing for her hats, which i think she should price her hats much higher for their level of quality. poizenkat Jul. 2nd, 2011 01:29 am (local) EKBellatrix 1. EKBellatrix 2. http://ekbellatrix.deviantart.com/ 3. about a month ago possibly more recent 4. The hat i commissioned is AMAZING! i did not expect it to be nearly as awesome as it is! she put a really soft fur in the ears which was a great touch and an awesome surprise! The hat is very comfortable and i had worn another one made by her previously. her hats are extremely well made and just look great! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6009417 celestinaketzia Jul. 2nd, 2011 07:49 am (local) Unnie/ BoH 1. Unnie/ BoH 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/unnie/ 3. A few days ago. 4. She posted a journal to do sketch commissions. I wanted one, so I filled out her form. You can see my comment here as a rough time frame when she responded to me. The finished product is here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6031808 As you can see, she finished it lightning fast, and it looks fabulous. I highly recommend her. hollso Jul. 2nd, 2011 04:38 pm (local) Amanda Drage / Moodymand 1. Amanda Drage / Moodymand 2. http://moodymand.deviantart.com/ 3. 2 weeks ago, also in previous years. 4. I recently commissioned a £10 sketch from her. She's super friendly, professional, and currently quite affordable. She was fairly prompt, met my vague ideas well! It was excellently packaged and sent to me quick. I've also bought originals and prints from her, and they've always been excellent transactions. New sketch here: http://moodymand.deviantart.com/art/Risen-213145188 alex_dachshund Jul. 2nd, 2011 06:47 pm (local) Venigsun 1. Venigsun 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/venigsun 3. June 14th, and it was finished June 29th. 4. I commissioned this person for a "name-your-own-price" commission. Told her I could pay her $35 and she replied that would get me a realistic icon. Did so, and I didn't wait long for it. It came out beautifully: http://www.furaffinity.net/full/6020576/ I watched her stream this briefly before she had to stop from technical difficulties, and she created a realism sketch in less than 10 mins and was already drawing the strands of hair. She made it look so easy! O.O Definitely commission this person, she is really nice to talk to and she puts a lot of effort into her art, even if it's just an icon. The amount of detail she uses is near that of photorealism! You will totally be satisfied! ? oceanotter Jul. 5th, 2011 05:10 pm (local) LeeLee LeeLee http://www.furaffinity.net/user/leelee/ 7/3/11 Commissioned a flat color image from this person and in under 24 hours received a wip while she was working on the finishing touches. Very fast very efficient. I understand this artist has been in trouble in the past but she is really cleaning up. I would certainly recommend to anyone out there. latiro Jul. 13th, 2011 01:04 pm (local) 1. pudding0728 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/pudding0728/ 3. since April 4. they're surprisingly fast finishing my commission when I commissioned them. They're very awesome to work with and their gallery screams "ADORABLE" all over. Recommended here's a recent one where my character, Loki transformed into a Jolteon (cuteness warning) http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6110723/

Tyrah New posted to artists_beware December 26 2018, 18:29 BEWARE: DOBERMANMORALIST WHO: DobermanMoralist @ FA WHERE: FurAffinity WHAT: Digital Artwork WHEN: September 29th, 2018 to Today EXPLAIN: So I ordered a YCH from DobermanMoralist on September 29th. It is nearing three months since this date, and I have received NO updates on progress, NO messages, nothing. So on Monday I asked for either progress updates or a refund, and they said that they would complete mine AFTER they finished their new Christmas YCHs (which were ordered 3 weeks ago). I said "So.. you're doing the Christmas ones first, before the one I paid for three months ago?" Just to clarify, and they confirmed. So I said "I think I'd just rather have the refund then." To which they responded "I don't do refunds, there was no queue, you weren't given a number on the queue, I'll do the art and you won't get your money back." PROOF: https://sta.sh/01zyqqabwcpd EVERYTHING is in this one image.

kitsunewaffles wrote in artists_beware December 7 2018, 19:08 WHO: WarriorKniightSkye/KniightSkye on Furaffinity, Deviantart, Discord. They link everything they have on FA. WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/warriorknightskye WHAT: Stolen/Sold Traced Artwork. WHEN: Really unsure when she started tracing/selling my work, but I was informed of it in October, 2018. EXPLAIN: I was informed by someone that WarriorKniightSkye/KniightSkye had been spotted trying to sell traced artwork that looked like mine. I checked it out and it was definitely mine. I was provided links to side-by-side images and it speaks for itself. They have apparently been doing this to my work for a long period of time. As a precaution, I deleted almost all YCH template holders on my FA. I did notice that she actually tried to buy a YCH from me before, rather recently actually, which is funny, but I digress. You'll see me mention it to her through Discord/FA. I did contact them via note on FA and DA as well as directly through Discord. I didn't receive a response through FA or DA, but did through Discord. They admitted the theft and apologized and I let it go. I was informed again, today (Dec. 7, 2018), that they were at it again, this time trying to sell something for almost $200 using Discord to advertise it. I know she's primarily active on Discord, which is a place I'm really not, so I guess that makes her feel comfortable to keep doing what she's doing. PROOF: Side-by-side images of my old work/her tracings of it (Nsfw warning) --> https://gyazo.com/68ea06e1c24cbac2dc38913644c714ea https://gyazo.com/87bb8f96da9fe2261fb57294233b02ed The Discord conversation where she admitted to tracing and selling --> https://gyazo.com/7ea1183811eecfe43b7090dfe25ea52f FA note --> https://gyazo.com/1bb08d6c25cf2f8acce65b3119b08c99 The most recent tracing job w/ overlay on the original and her trying to sell it on Discord --> https://gyazo.com/fb7a60347a6fcddf203a97616300722e https://gyazo.com/150675260cac75b3215c7feda31cd84d

midderoo (midderoo) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-12-23 22:03 Xhybora WHO: Xhybora WHERE: Furaffinity ( http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xhybora/ ) and Discord WHAT: Single character short looping animation WHEN: First payment made December 30th Second payment made January 12th. EXPLAIN: This'll be a bit all over the place because of how FA's notes work. And I want to get every single screenshot so it shows everything. (It reads from bottom to top when it comes to the back and forth, in case it looks a bit confusing to read.) Note: Some of the conversations via discord are NSFW. 29/8/2017 I was first approached by Xhybora on the 29th of October where they expressed interest in doing an animation for me. [1] I of course responded, not having had many people actually express interest in me and my OC's so much they actually come to me. I try to keep it buisiness like but friendly at the same time. [2] 30/8/2017 The next day he replies telling me how much the base price normally is. [3] I respond to them, telling them where it's easier to talk to me and how to keep in contact with me as well as telling them which characters would be good for the animation they had in mind. [4] They then ask for my Discord. [5] I give them said Discord. [6] Through Discord we discuss the idea. [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] 11/12/2017 He messages me to check up on if I'm still on board with the commission and when I will be able to pay. [12] I suggest a payment plan since my PC had kicked the bucket and I had to spend any money I'd been saving on a laptop. He also reiiterates the idea he had in mind as well as which OC he wanted to use, which was my Fursona. [13] He tells me how much it will cost and what it will come with. I also express interest that if the animation turns out well I'll return for more. I think you can tell how that went. [14] I work out roughly about how much I can pay for and when I'd be able to. As I always like to give explanations on how/when I get the money and when it'll be in Paypal. As being transparent with the artist and explaining everything to them is something that I find they like. [15] We continue talking about the commission and not much else. [16] 28/12/2017 - 29/12/2017 He messages me again to make sure I'm still interested. [17] 30/12/2017 I pay the first payment. 30/100 USD. [18] The Invoice. [19] Him and I discuss when I'll be able to pay it all off/make another payment. [20] 12/1/2018 He asks for the rest of the commission payment, which I pay in full. [21] The Second Invoice. [22] 25/5/2018 - 23/12/2018 I ask how the commission is doing. To which he says he'll get me a wip soon almost a week later. I wait a few months, ask for the update he said he'd give me months prior. I wait 12 days before giving up waiting any longer. [23] I make a payment request through PayPal since I don't know what else to do. [24] Overall I kinda just feel crappy. I got a bad feeling once or twice around the time I was paying him. But I didn't listen to it because I always feel bad saying no and/or making people upset. I was just too naive and gullible. I am not sure if it'll get solved. If it does that's a plus. But I'd like this to be here as a warning. Do not commission someone if you get any sliver of a bad feeling. And please, be wary of people that come to you for a commission.

nickh49 (nickh49) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-12-18 18:47 Unfinished Art Trade: SinfulDreams15 WHO: SinfulDreams15 WHERE: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/sinfuldreams15/ https://sinfulwhispers15.tumblr.com WHAT: Art trade WHEN: May 27, 2013 — present UPDATE: After being informed of this post, on Dec. 22 2018 she noted me on FA with her alt account her half of our trade. I'd like this beware to be tagged as "Resolved" but also would like this to have a "Caution" tag if possible due to these messages she left afterwards trying to claim it was personal reasons with me that she ignored my messages for the trade instead of just doing the trade from the start. https://sta.sh/028o4ohtup64 EXPLAIN: I had an art trade with this artist in which I've waited 5+ years for her to finish her half and periodically asked for updates throughout those years. When I actually confronted her about it a few months ago, she said she's been too busy and can't do it, yet I've seen her take trades after mine and do theirs and done gift art for other people. She also admitted to ignoring the messages I asked about it. When I said I was gonna let everyone on her discord server know (because I think they deserved to know), she kicked me from the server and blocked me. PROOF: My half of our trade >>> http://fav.me/d66uh5x Her admitting to ignoring my messages >>> https://sta.sh/01jzi3bd3mez Proof that she now has me blocked >>> https://sta.sh/01ah80dhjf53

vera_snep (vera_snep) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-12-16 05:38 Advice: Lost Contact with CanineKuroki (Please pardon my formatting and such, this is my first time posting) EDIT: Not long after making this post (a couple weeks), CanineKuroki contacted me, apologized, and provided a full refund. Due to personal issues I will not get into detail about, she was unable to finish. She also sent me what she had made for the price of shipping. It's unfortunate that she wasn't able to complete the commission, but I give her some serious props for providing a full refund and sending what she had made. WHO: Canine Kuroki/Kuroki Yami/HoneyspydeR WHERE: https://www.facebook.com/CanineKuroki/ http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kurokiyami/ https://www.deviantart.com/honeyspyder WHAT: Fursuit partial WHEN: Initial contact: July 16th, 2016 First Payment: July 24th, 2016 First Loss of Contact: September 16th, 2016 Second Loss of Contact: December 21st, 2016 EXPLAIN: So, I contacted Yami through Facebook in July to ask for a quote. She responded pretty quickly and all conversation until September was quick, taking no more than a week for replies. She would send occasional WIP photos and I was happy [1]. My first payment via PayPal was on July 24th and the second one was on September 6th [2]. She was fine with how the payment plan was and there were no disputes whatsoever. ( Read more... ) But then, she just seemed to drop off the face of the Earth. I’d contact her about once a month to try and see what was going on [3]. Her Facebook page never updated and I had no other ways of contacting her. So, I sent a dispute into PayPal in December for both of my payments. She then responded to them fairly quickly, apologizing for her lack of communication. She then offered to give a partial refund, promised to improve her communication, and promised some extra goodies when I got the suit (Unfortunately, I do not have any screenshots of our conversation through PayPal, though I have tried to get them recently). I accepted and she sent a refund [4]. She also recommended I use her email, which she gave me, in order to contact her more efficiently. Unfortunately, I was naïve and dropped both cases, saying they were resolved (because at the time I thought they were). She sent one last set of WIP photos within a week, then disappeared again afterwards [5]. To this day, I’ve contacted her about once a month to try and get her back. I have contacted her through every form of media I could find, including FA and DA. I have threatened, though not followed through with demanding a refund and taking legal action. To be honest, I don’t know how I would go about doing all that, I just wanted to get her attention. I honestly just want my fursuit. I’m hoping that someone out there can help. 1: FB First WIP 3 (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18Rqi1veWRSJZwXyHUa7aaRphusWzxVfe) 2: InkedPayPal Payment 1_LI and InkedPayPal Payment 2_LI (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lo0tY1x5KwHZ2lMfTKs1tvpOSe5LMUV4) 3: Everything in the Facebook folder titled “Lost Contact” (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18Rqi1veWRSJZwXyHUa7aaRphusWzxVfe) 4: InkedPayPal Refund_LI (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lo0tY1x5KwHZ2lMfTKs1tvpOSe5LMUV4) 5: InkedEmail Sent 12_17_16 - 12_21_16_LI (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16_NkSjpftzPa0etb1Sh2o6YmmF20XKM_) PROOF: PayPal: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lo0tY1x5KwHZ2lMfTKs1tvpOSe5LMUV4 Emails: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16_NkSjpftzPa0etb1Sh2o6YmmF20XKM_ FurAffinity: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1L8BUFSDmPU8W7CeEsKYiaw561QNEkdde Facebook: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18Rqi1veWRSJZwXyHUa7aaRphusWzxVfe DeviantArt: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1aza_Pfcm-wV6f2DnOw2rpNcVFi-ldddx

impatientpotato (impatientpotato) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-12-08 23:02 Chibijenhen WHO: Chibijenhen_art WHERE: https://twitter.com/ChibiJenHen_Art WHAT: Commission (never received) WHEN: 9/16/2017 EXPLAIN: Chibijenhen opened commissions claiming that she had a problem with her bank that needed extra money to fix, since she's a professional artist now, I assumed it was legit. I bought a commission after asking if the character would be doable, she said it was fine. Over the next year or so I asked for updates multiple times, she assured me she would get to it, but never offered anything as an update, over that period of time she had drawn hundreds of pieces of personal art, and had also opened up commissions again several times, always claiming it was from a bank problem. Now if it was something huge like a poster or animation that I paid for I could understand the wait, but I can't believe she would be so busy she can't do a sketch over a period of a year and 2 months. I had asked some people familiar with her work about it in private, and had been told this is something she does very often, only prioritizing things involving her characters and putting off everything else indefinitely. She doesn't seem like an inherently bad person to me, but going off of this her work ethic is horrendous, I would advise against commissioning anything from her unless you want to wait a very long time. PROOF: ( Read more... ) </lj-cut>

Shetani Cheetah (Shetani Cheetah) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-12-07 00:19 Hitchedboy/Jaoqy/Oatiemeal/Seafowl WHO: hitchedboy / jaoqy / oatiemeal / seafowl WHERE: https://www.instagram.com/oatiemeal, https://www.deviantart.com/seafowl, https://www.deviantart.com/jaoqy, http://flightrising.com/main.php?p=lair&tab=userpage&id=146038 WHAT: 2 character digital painting with background WHEN: July 15, 2018 - current EXPLAIN: Note that there will be some jumping around between different websites/screenshots due to the artist attempting to evade contact. They also changed their usernames various times throughout the course of this interaction, so screenshots may not match up exactly with what I've written. ( Read more... ) July 15 - I commissioned the user hitchedboy on the petsite Flight Rising for a 2-character digital painting, which was paid for using site currency in the form of items. [1] Payment was sent using Flight Rising's 2-way trade system. Weeks passed without word, and their FR profile indicated that they hadn't logged in to FR at all since a few days after I last heard from them. With this avenue of communication closed, I started seeking an alternate way to contact them, and found their Instagram account (which was also under the username hitchedboy at the time. The link on their profile led to a DeviantArt name of jaoqy.) August 27th - I messaged hitchedboy on Instagram to inquire about a turnaround time for my commission. They said they had lost their FR login info but were still willing to do the art for me. They informed me that their preferred method of contact was Discord. [2] August 28th - Our correspondence moved to Discord. I provided them with the commission info again since they stated they lost access to their FR account. I was told that I could check in with them "as much as I wanted" and that my art would be finished in "most likely only a week." [3] September 5th - A week later, I asked to see a sketch. hitchedboy said they weren't at their computer and would send it to me in 2-3 hours. I gave them an extra 4 hours before poking them again. They told me to message them again to remind them in 5 hours; I did so and received no response at all. (Time discrepancy in their message is due to hitchedboy being in the GMT+10 timezone and myself in GMT-5.) Though I was irritated at being brushed off, I decided to give them some time. [4] September 22nd - Life got in the way and I wasn't able to touch base with hitchedboy before this date. I told them the reason for my delay; they responded with a situation curiously similar to mine, and informed me they had completed the base colors on the art. I had not seen so much as a sketch from hitchedboy at this point, despite being promised one several times over. I felt uneasy and asked them to show me the art at its current stage for approval before progressing - again, my message was ignored. [5] September 29th - I logged into Discord, saw that hitchedboy was online, and shot them a message. They immediately switched their status to "offline." (I don't have a screenshot of this, sadly.) In response to this action, I asked them to just let me know if they no longer wanted to do the commission, as I needed it by a certain date and this would give me enough time to find a replacement artist. They assured me that they still fully intended to finish the art, citing extreme forgetfulness as an excuse for blowing me off in the past. They once again set a bizarrely unrealistic time frame - this time just 10 minutes - in which I should expect to see the art. At this point, I was severely doubting that any work had been completed at all, and sent a bit of a lengthy message expressing my frustration about being given the runaround time and again. An hour later, hitchedboy sent me a progress photo. This honestly surprised me, given that I'd been convinced that they hadn't even started, and the completion level seemed to me to be more than could be done in an hour. I informed them of corrections that needed to be made, making sure to be thorough since I didn't know if I would even get a chance to see another WIP before the picture was finished. [6] October 3rd-5th - I ensured that hitchedboy was aware of, and agreed to, the deadline for the piece. [7] October 21st - For the first time, hitchedboy sent me a progress update without being prompted. They said they hoped to have it done by the next day (of course, this didn't happen.) [8] October 24th - hitchedboy apologized for the delay, citing issues with the background. [8] October 30th-31st - The day before the due date, hitchedboy contacted me to say that the art was done, but they were unable to upload it. They claimed to be out of the house again and they would have someone else try to upload the picture while they were gone. Not only had I not gotten to see and approve the final product, I wasn't even told what website I should expect to find it on. In addition, I was extremely confused as to why they didn't just try a different site if they were having trouble with one in particular. I heard neither hide nor hair from them on the actual due date. [9] November 2nd-10th - I would otherwise have just written this off if not for the fact that they had actually completed a good deal of progress on the commission as per the one WIP I received, so continued to message hitchedboy in an attempt to just wrap up the whole ordeal. They claimed to have been in the hospital. No progress was made towards resolving the situation. [10] November 15th - I made another contact attempt on Discord, directly @'ing hitchedboy when I saw them appear as active. [11] While gathering up info to make this beware, I noticed that their Instagram username had been changed to oatiemeal. The account showed activity as of 10 hours earlier (no screenshot of this), and the link in their profile now led to a newly made DeviantArt page under the name seafowl. [12] The recent submissions in this gallery were pieces that had been completed and uploaded on November 3rd and subsequently, when they claimed to not have internet access. Giving the benefit of the doubt, I sent them a polite Instagram message. They responded only to request that I contact them on Discord, which I had been doing for the past 2 weeks. I admittedly lost my cool at this point, which I should not have done. Despite the fact that I knew they no longer used the website where the commission originated, I gave them a deadline to produce either the supposedly completed art or a refund. [13] To this date I have seen neither. (I also messaged them on Discord again as per their request, in case that would produce results somehow - it did not.) [14] I'm very upset because I was really looking forward to getting art from this artist. Quite frankly, I'm not too broken up about losing the payment for the commission, as I would much rather have the art. I can only count myself lucky that I paid in non-monetary currency, and hopefully they aren't doing this to customers on DeviantArt or Instagram as well. PROOF: All screenshots in this folder and linked at the appropriate points within the explanation.

xtm45 (xtm45) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-11-25 20:50 DevilAnney - Ignoring Messages, Unfinished Character Design\Sheet, Refusal to Refund Was told to post this if I didn't get refunded. So here we go again. WHO: DevilAnney on FurAffinity. WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/devilanney/ WHAT: Character design and reference sheet WHEN: First started on September 30th, 2018 and has been ongoing. EXPLAIN: On September 30th, I had been browsing FA. I stumbled upon Anney's FA page where she had a character for sale, a green sabertooth tiger. After browsing, I saw she had been open for custom characters and I was interested in one as I wanted a saber of my own as well. She had given me her Discord to talk business. The character design itself was $10 and then, a couple minutes on, I asked about if I could have it made into a full reference sheet. She agreed and said the price would be $15 instead of $10. I agreed and was told I'd get two poses, a headshot, and a closeup of the characters paws. The character was going to be a saber, as well. We had agreed on the piece taking two days to complete. However, I don't have this exact proof since she deleted the post we discussed that on off of FurAffinity. However, later on in the messages it's pretty much implied as such by our conversation. I paid the $15 and the wait began. ( Read more... ) Two days later, I received a sketch of the character. She wasn't... really a saber but I loved her regardless. After I gave her the okay to continue, I didn't hear from her for another two days. At this point, she's already past her deadline she told me but a couple days wouldn't kill me. I didn't honestly expect it that quick, but still. On October 3rd, I messaged her and asked if there was any update. She told me she had been busy with other commissions and that she'd work on lining and then coloring the piece the next day. Fine by me. Two weeks went by without hearing a single thing from her. I messaged her again and asked asked about an update and she said that she had been busy with school and work now. I was then told I'd get an update when she got home from one of the two and I took that as an okay. I had a feeling things were getting sketchy at this point. I never got that update. Another week went by and I asked her what was up. I voiced how I was getting frustrated being told I'd get updates and progress but I never got any. All I got were empty promises. I then told her that I was starting to get to the point of asking for a refund. When I did, she REALLY started ignoring me. For two days, I got no response back. On the 21st of October, I messaged her again and asked if she was really going to start ignoring me. She then apologized and said she was going to go home and work on the picture. FINALLY I got an update. She sent a picture of the colored character and asked if it was fine. Just wanting my character and art done, I agreed and said that the colors were fine. From that point on, I've gotten NOTHING from her. On November 11th, I asked for an update. I got nothing. So on the 13th, I grew tired of it. I told her I wanted a refund as what she was doing was VERY unfair to me. I had given her plenty of time and chances and got nothing but empty promises and lies in return. On the same day, I filed a PayPal dispute to get my money back. She has not replied to any of the posts on PayPal. She has had time to post links to t-shirt designs she's selling which was posted four days ago, along with many other adopts. She's constantly online on Discord, as well, so I KNOW she's seeing my DM's. I also happened to go on her page and saw someone else asked her to reply to her Notes. UPDATE 11/25/2018: I started a PayPal dispute on November 11, 2018 and she never responded to it. Instead, she has vanished into thin air. She is no longer using Discord or she unfriended me. Not sure which. She has also deactived her FurAffinity and any other sites she used for art. Because she did not respond, I won the case and was given back my money. PROOF: PayPal Payment. Had to censor a ton because she used her real name on her PayPal and also had to censor my Credit Card info -> https://gyazo.com/22d34db7901cb9be377fd62fdc0d768f All the Discord conversations we've had about the business. Her PayPal had to be censored because it had her first and last name in it. I can uncensor if I need to. -> https://imgur.com/a/c7tyudx E-Mail from PayPal saying she didn't respond at all and they issued me a refund of my money -> https://gyazo.com/3b0ca840894e98374e62a0266c326861

screaminsiren (screaminsiren) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-11-27 11:13 Foxiful/ Laseros After waiting and waiting I have yet to receive any kind of payment or notification from her. WHERE: DA https://www.deviantart.com/laseros FA https://www.furaffinity.net/user/laseros/ WHAT: Digital Art WHEN: July, 30,2017 to Ongoing EXPLAIN: Alright so to start this was a wonderfully normal interaction between an artist and commissoner that desperately needed help. Hearing from a friend this person needed it I decided to do so and here are those interactions. https://sta.sh/21sj3oko36j0?edit=1 See? Normal. Now this is when it starts to get bad. I noted her after waiting till Jan of 2018 seeing I had heard nothing from her not even WIP's Then again in Mar seen below https://sta.sh/01lchc0oot1w This was never responded to. Now, carrying on I started noticing journals going out. Now, I understand crap happens and all but it became more strange when I kept seeing more and heard absolutely nothing about my commissioned piece back in July. I bought another piece in a small emergency journal https://sta.sh/21u1znxuq0b?edit=1 Not a problem! Was done live stream and everything! Ok! Awesome so waiting a bit longer I noticed more journals as seen below. https://sta.sh/21rdlvl91hrq?edit=1 https://sta.sh/01h6279lkmev So, waiting a bit longer I was finally added to her discord group and therefore was able to get in contact with her via the messenger https://sta.sh/21ypoz22u92p?edit=1 ( Read more... ) Here became a slow progression of feeling overwhelmed with having to gently ask what is going on every now and then. Finally after waiting for a long time with no response I officially gave her an apology and asked for a refund if not a partial as seen in the proof above After waiting and waiting I have yet to recieve any kind of payment or notification from her. This is still an ongoing problem.

inklopbunny (inklopbunny) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-11-10 12:46 Dog-Bone / XenoForge WHO: The XenoForge, Dog-Bone, DogBoneArtwork, Leachymonster WHERE: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/dog-bone , https://twitter.com/TheXenoForge WHAT: Digital art, YCH WHEN: Early December 2017 to now. EXPLAIN: Dog-Bone had posted a Christmas YCH auction, for multiple characters. I purchased one of the slots, and sent payment on the same day or the next. I have contacted them. multiple times since, they've ignored my messages for the most part, and no progress has been made. PROOF: PayPal confirmation screenshot, 7th December. On the 29th December I emailed them for an update, using the address they had on their YCH entry's description (dog-bone changed their email later on). At some point I managed to get through to them via Twitter DMs, but I've lost the messages: they said their computer died. 6 months ago, the artist deleted their entire gallery, announced they were abandoning FA, but assured their watchers that the account will remain open until all owed art is done. I leave a comment asking for details, and they claim they never received my message. I emailed their new email address on the 2nd of November; I still haven't heard from them or seen an update on their Trello, which they update every few days, or their Twitter. Dog-bone accepts and finishes commissions every week on Patreon. Their Patreon price sheet lists their two contacts, so it's not as though they have multiple inboxes to check. They only accept telegram and emails. The activity for the YCH hasn't changed since 26th March.

?Year of the Pupper? (JinxWolf34) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-11-02 13:58 Artist Beware: Matchadrool/QTCoyote Text: WHO: Matchadrool/QTCoyote WHERE: Megaplex 2017 - Artist Alley WHAT: Traditional badge WHEN: August 6, 2017 - September 6,2018 EXPLAIN: I ordered a traditional badge from Matchadrool at Megaplex last year. At first everything seemed fine. I got the sketch and it looked cute. However, there was an anatomical error with the badge and as an artist myself, I wanted to let them know how to fix it for the future(see images below). I told them not to worry about it for my badge. This was the last time I heard from them. We originally talked through text but after they disappeared I found them on instagram after a friend got a commission from them after I had bought mine. I saw that the badge had progressed since I had talked to them but, as of me typing this they have not sent a badge. I have tried to reach out both via text and instagram but no response. PROOF:https://imgur.com/gallery/aC0LHXy

col_eviscerator (col_eviscerator) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-11-02 10:15 Beware: Izacmafia, EmperorZheng WHO: izacmafia on FA, EmperorZheng on DA WHERE: FurAffinity WHAT: Zerosuit special colored sketch. WHEN: October 15th-31st 2018 EXPLAIN: Did not make corrections on a WIP sketch, and was abusive when such was requested. Admittedly, I could have handled it better, but I'm unused to such behavior. The latest/last notes exchanged through FA was shortly before I left for work this morning and when I got home this evening, I found that he'd already deleted the work and approval sketches before I'd been able to save them. I know English wasn't his first language, and communication was difficult at times, but he managed to satisfactorily complete one piece prior to this, despite him misreading or ignoring how I'd requested the characters be posed. I'm unsure if I should still press him for a refund seeing as he did the work, but I am now without even the unsatisfactory art. Edit: He did restore the image in question and I was able to save it, so the beware is now primarily about his behavior and advice on how to proceed. PROOF: I apologize for how disjointed and difficult to follow the conversation may be, FA note system is kind of difficult to use, and I had to bounce between my inbox and outbox. Please do note that 11 is not a duplicate, as it shows a different response. https://www.dropbox.com/s/l10trvc31ed4wfa/01.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7ecsz1wlvh9y6a/02.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/01hxkt0j3xzlb46/03.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ey3pem5syi6yymh/04.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/7gqhzcwcg0jqwut/05.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/lj8eq5nnlcd4fuv/06.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vgj6g1dfcvz0yu/07.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4hya4anavfhpboi/08.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/gh6oqhcaf051ead/09.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkh09hragdekg8e/10.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0mbv7gxpu8644g/11.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnqwddcd7dzq4lj/12.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0l5d3q6agtksyok/13.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/k25xwl7kl6u26nf/14.png?dl=0 Edit: Art was received, 14 just remains to demonstrate it was infact deleted. https://www.dropbox.com/s/5fqytygw7nkzqq5/15.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7rt2p3k9372xy1/17.png?dl=0 The work in question: https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/d0419ad4-d23f-43fc-ad3c-41fbd79202b4/dcqsi1k-0f6c89a2-6327-47cd-b61b-2821d10f7af5.jpg/v1/fill/w_764,h_1046,q_70,strp/commission_for_eviscerator_2_by_emperorzheng_dcqsi1k-pre.jpg And as in my first screencap, I requested heights of 160cm and 185cm respectively, and supplied a visual aid when requesting the correction: http://www.mrinitialman.com/OddsEnds/Sizes/sizes.html?base_ft=&base_in=185&comp_ft=&comp_in=160 I don't know what good a paypal screencap would be, as the art is done and I'm no longer pursuing a refund, but here goes: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v381vs704trfryg/16.png?dl=0

Bourbon. (dead_punk_fox) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-11-01 15:47 Commissioner Beware - Prince_Vaxis WHO: Prince_Vaxis on FA, Vaxi on Discord WHERE: Through FA, then through Discord DMs WHAT: Commission fell through, he wanted to commission me for digital artwork to have one slot auctioned off. WHEN: October 29-30. EXPLAIN: At first I was hesitant to post a beware about this, but the more I thought about it the more obvious that his conduct was wildly inappropriate with me. A few of my associates (commissioners and artists) also felt a beware was necessary to warn other artists about him. Especially since it can be intimidating dealing with a client who has a good amount of watchers and commissions more well known artists, and it's common for artists to acquiesce to a client's demands because of these things. It started off as him claiming a slot on FA (since deleted) and then wanting to discuss it further via Discord, which I don't mind. I keep my Discord public and am fine talking to whoever. At first he wanted a bust commission, which would have fit within his budget. Then he waffled and decided he wanted a much larger idea, however he fought me every step of the way on cost. He was pushing for more and more to be included, things which are way outside the amount of time I have to devote for so little pay. At the end, I told him he was demanding way too much for what he was paying, because what he wanted was essentially a two character full color, which I charge $300 for per image. The end of it has him cursing me out, trying to call me over Discord (I assume to yell at me over voice, had this happened I would have recorded it as well), which I am EXTREMELY uncomfortable with and what really pushed me to write this beware. I don't voice chat in private with random people, and certainly not with someone who's behavior turned suddenly sour. It was likely an attempt to intimidate me into handing him a full refund (which I have done at this point). And him bringing up breaking his commissioner's TOS (??? which sounded extremely sketchy to me, since a TOS is a terms of service for the person providing a service). PROOF: Some of the screenshots do have NSFW art in them, this was him illustrating what he wanted. The conversation is also NSFW as it delves into the aspects he wanted included in the picture. Also included is the sketch work I had done for him that he didn't want to pay for. I apologize for how many screenshots there are, I wanted to include everything. The only part I left out was conversation about our pets and other casual stuff. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GhKNGZqpq0ZsFPMAmvPV1k8ZPuP9MxzC Edit: Update 4.12.19 I actually do have an addition to this caution. Several weeks ago another artist DM'd me on Twitter saying that Vaxis had told them he'd apologized to me and was trying to be a better person. He has NOT spoken to me since before he was removed from the original A_B LJ community. I have had absolutely no contact and he has not made any apologies to me. If he's messaging anyone claiming he has, he's lying.

HatchetHaro (HatchetHaro) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-10-29 01:26 Beware: Talen / Talen27 / Seagull / Seaguii WHO: Talen27 / Talen / Seagull / Seaguii WHERE: FurAffinity, Discord, Telegram WHAT: Design and reference sheet WHEN: July 8, 2018 to October 27, 2018 EXPLAIN: Before I start, most of what happened between us happened in voice chat, so any evidence on the matter is scarce. I am fortunately able to salvage enough from our text chatlogs (that he didn't delete) that should be enough to piece together what happened . This person commissioned me for a design for his character, along with a reference sheet. I charged him $50, and since we were lovers, I told him to hold onto it so we could put it towards a commission for us both. We fell out, I lost my desire to take any commission with him, but he refused to give me my $50 back. To begin, Talen and I used to be in a relationship, and I was the one who introduced him to the scalie community. As a symbol of our love, I made for him, for free, a design for his character along with a reference sheet for it. I'd like to say here that the process of creating that reference sheet for him was painful, with me streaming the process of the art to him and creating design after design that he kept asking for tweaks or redesigns on, bouncing between every little detail asking me to make drastic changes again and again. Nevertheless, I completed it and sent him the finished file. The date was July 8. After a week of finishing the reference sheet, though, he asked for changes to the design, and along with some other personal disputes, I told him that I would charge him no less than $50, and he agreed. [1] Honestly, $50 for a full reference sheet at this quality is one hell of a deal, so to this day, the fact that he is unwilling to pay up is due to pettiness. I continued to stream to him, in the exact same process of him asking for change after change after change on the designs that I came up with. I finished up the reference sheet on July 30, and told him to hold on to the $50 so he could pay that much in my stead when we decide to go for a commission together. Fast forward to early August when he broke up with me for other relationship-related reasons. He still wanted to be friends, and though it hurt me, I continued to be friends with him, and he was still holding on to the $50 that he owes me. [2] Since then, throughout the next two months, I've made repeated mentions for him to just return me my $50, though every time he tried to convince me to just get a commission with him. He never denied it, but he knows he owes me $50. [3] Fast forward again to mid-October, I made a request of him to stop mentioning all the new friends he's trying to date because I was still hurting from the breakup, and he straight up flamed me in voice chat, in the most toxic manner one can imagine, all for being "soft" or "overreacting". At that point, I snapped, and demanded my $50 back, but he refused, going between excuses such as "I can pay you the $50, but I won't" to "I only have $7 in my bank account, I can't pay you", all between a lot of name-calling, flaming, and accusing me of "blackmail" (in his technical terms, "defamation for the purposes of monetary gain", which you can totally twist "I'll tell peeps you're a thief if you steal money from me" into). He proceeded to block me from all communications. [4][5] Upon contacting one of his friends who know him better, I learned that Talen is simply that way and that my $50 is lost. I have contacted another of his friends recently, who willingly acted as an arbiter between me and Talen, and given him an ultimatum: pay me, or stop using my design. At this point, Talen had removed my reference sheet from his gallery, and currently plans to use one of the art commissions he got from another artist as his new reference sheet, except that commission's character was fully taken from my design and refsheet. [1] July 26: https://i.imgur.com/zRfFAgj.png I have blacked out all things related to our personal issues; I can provide the non-censored text if inquired. [2] August 10: https://i.imgur.com/zx96ExG.png The "Option A" and "Option B" was, explained simply, "cut off contact from each other" and "remain friends and help each other recover" respectively. [3] August 10: https://i.imgur.com/7yULthl.png This one is where he suggests artists and I explain fully what I meant. In the end, it is still clear he owes me $50. I have blacked out the exact values that he had bragged about spending on commissions and toys already as well as how much he still had at the time. I have also blacked out other names and the segue into the discussion about our own personal issues. [4] October 18: https://i.imgur.com/Vs7uxB8.png This is our full conversation on FurAffinity directly after the last straw. Since they were all separate responses, I have taken the liberty to format the screenshots into a chatroom structure for the sake of readability; no content has been altered. Personal issues and discussions have been blacked out, except for the final one. [5] October 19: https://i.imgur.com/sLEJ1Dy.png These are excerpts from our final argument in a separate Discord server, highlighting his denial and hypocrisy. There have been many repeated mentions of "blackmail" and threatening legal action on his part that do not contribute to the discussion, so I have cut those out. I have also blacked out what he claimed to have in his bank account; the decimal place should tell you enough. Honestly, I was very angry at that point, so some things I said was cringe-worthy; I have left those in for the sake of context. There are lessons to be learned from this story, in particular for me. I have learned to recognize red flags that would ruin a relationship, and I have also learned that I should never provide the final finished commission without payment first, whether I trust the person on a romantic level or not. I understand that this may be a more "special" case of Artist Beware in that the business is intertwined with personal feud; I have tried my best to omit most of the personal stuff from my images, but some I have kept in due to their vague relation to the transaction at hand. Another thing I am unsure of is whether I should include the artwork in question in this post for clarity and also as proof in case he actually does continue to get commissions with the same character design. I'll edit it in underneath all this if you guys want me to. I currently plan on selling the character design and reference sheet to someone else with little to no changes to the actual design, since the design of the character is still mine.

sergallysergal (sergallysergal) @ 2018-10-25 20:53 Just A Little Mixed Up WHO: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/just-a-little-mixed-up/ WHERE: Discord and Telegram WHAT: Eight flat pinups. WHEN: February 2018 to October 2018 EXPLAIN: Asked to buy 8 pieces in a discord we both shared. Was given an invoice, and gave her payments to the invoice(1) for the images she completed as she did them. First went pretty quick, the next one took a month, and the latest was not received until August. Between the second and third, she claimed she needed to get money together to move, and my response to that was to finish paying off the invoice completely. I also attempted to try to make the investment easier to handle by suggesting we switched out things, which is why I talked about getting a ref sheet instead of the last four pinups in the log. At the time I wanted to at least get something for the money I put down, and asking for a refund was the last resort. After that I waited a month assuming it would take that long, without response, until the artist asked for email communications in reply to an inquiry on telegram that I had sent her(2), which threw me off since we had been working through telegram for the majority of the work. I inquired about it, but complied and resent her the material she needed for the work to be done. ( Read more... ) Another month later (and three days ago) I tried getting in contact with her again, with no response.(3) After asking a mutual friend I learned that she's been refusing contact under claim that she will only respond to email. I was frankly, tired of my investment going nowhere so I sent an email asking for a refund for the 5 pieces that were never started. As of this post I have yet to receive any compensation, not even a reply.(4) Under the artist's ToS, linked here, the artist is responsible for keeping open communications to the best of her ability. This has unfortunately been broken seeing as she's still working on commissions while ignoring my inquiries, and with no faith that I will ever get a refund, I am washing my hands of this. PROOF: (1) https://www.dropbox.com/s/draztmtjxc9bslc/invoice.PNG (2) https://www.dropbox.com/s/p8xl0judwcz4fbj/log1.PNG and https://www.dropbox.com/s/ayvni8aecpsw6tg/log3.PNG (3) https://www.dropbox.com/s/qc05x9n8ox74kq2/log2.PNG (4) https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccupob7bh138nhw/photo_2018-10-24_05-22-09.jpg </lj-cut>

October 25 2018, 17:48 Artist Beware: Baasil I shall begin this with a little warning. I was uninformed about the actual stipulations of Paypal; I have always thought it was only 60 days, and not 120 days for buyer protection. With that said I was a bit assertive to this commissioned person. I thought my time was running out and dry, but this could have easily been resolved with some reassurance by this commissioned person. WHO: Baasil [http://www.furaffinity.net/user/baasil/] SpicyBaasil [https://picarto.tv/SpicyBaasil] WHERE: Stream: SpicyBaasil [https://picarto.tv/SpicyBaasil] WHAT: This was meant to be a quick icon and a full color commission that stretched at most a 2 or 3 week period as stated by the artist. WHEN: August 31, 2018 - October 21, 2018 EXPLAIN: The situation all started on August 31st 2018… I commissioned this artist in the early hours of 6am, but their stream ran short and they had been up all night for that day. They said they would complete my commission the following day. I am always forgiving and being an artist myself was totally fine with waiting until tomorrow. Tomorrow came, and nothing had been done. I did not expect the requested art of a full color commission the following day, but I did expect some progress on this icon we had discussed in stream before. Shortly after there was a Hurricane that struck their area, no damage other than power outages on Sept 9th … I went along with what they said to me in that journal, that they will be working offline for their owed art due to those who had worked with them prior to the storm. Being patient I waited until days passed. Sept 24th came I asked for n update since their queue listing isn’t quite listed anywhere I can find. My sketch was promised the week of Sept 24th September 24th was a Monday and the 29th would be the end of this week After these following messages my patience became stale and I had to be a bit more blunt as I have seen little to no action by this artist to do their duties. I was giving the benefit of the doubt to them and letting them tackle on a new icon since it’s been rough times. Again another false promise “tomorrow” my patience is already running thin by now. As I do not want this artist do to any more work than is required I wanted to make it clear that this is replacing what we had previously discussed. Now comes the true fallout and where I feel insulted by this artist. [for some reason it has “RE” even tho this is initial messages] This is the point where I thought I am running out of buyers protection and being a bit more blunt with this artist. Tomorrow promises yet again still being forgiving to this artist as I know how times can be tough. Confirming and thanking on the new family member, at this point it has been a total of 46 days from initial commissioning. The icon was meant to be done the DAY after I commissioned them, and the art was to be done in 14/21 days from commission date. Things turn sour~ It was at this point that I thought my buyers protection was running out and thought 60 days was the final cut off for my protection. This could have been so easily retorted by the artist letting me know I had 180 days but they decided to go a different route. Their claim is that they have had my work done, but I do not believe them. I have no means of guaranteeing or not that they had my work done. I also felt sympathy for them because I do commission work too but of a different kind. This was the most insulting thing of our interaction. As a client it is not my duty to keep notes on what you as a professional artist are owing me. This is a blurry pic just where we had a verbal agreement of work we had done. It’s the best I could do I am sorry. Their vod was low resolution. They got the idea of me being under the YCH through my personal Furaffinity Page. As I thought my time was running out I had to pressure them. Things got hostile. They got really mad at me, granted I was being very direct and blunt. I was just tired of hearing the three or four confirmations of getting my art done “this week” // “tomorrow” that I was basically done with this whole situation and wanted my money back. This is where things turned sour and I lost trust in this person. The fact that they are threatening defaming my name even tho my only fault was being assertive made me wary of their intentions. “Rest of refund, you’re even making money on it because I can’t be bothered to figure out fees. If you still action, I will be pursuing theft by deception charges and reporting to FA. :D” After issuing a 30 USD charge when I specifically told them the amount. After this moment I just refunded both their initial 10 usd and their 30 dollars sent. The saga ends there. This was the worst interaction I’ve ever had with an artist in my time on Furafinity. Could have simply been reassured by some condolences to me. Letting me know I had extra time vs when i assert myself threatening defamation. I am not sure what circles they run with, but hopefully I am blocked by anyone who sides with their antics. PROOF: Inline linking as conversation goes on, but will include all here in order of all my messages on FA. https://i.imgur.com/B3xOVqw.jpg

poizenkat Jun. 17th, 2011 05:57 pm (local) Doirn 1. Doirn 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/doirn/ 3. Yesterday/today 4. Doirn asked a question about doing sketch pages and i volunteered to be the guinea pig 83 i sent payment after giving her the reference and such just last night and this morning i got on and BAM shes done already!! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5948505 its absolutely stunning! i love how she portrays my character, Darzee. She looks perfect in Doirn's art style and i just cannot wait to get it in the mail!! poizenkat Jun. 17th, 2011 06:01 pm (local) 1. Muttmonster 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/muttmonster 3. A week ago 4. Muttmonster opened for commissions to make characters a 'monster' similar to their fursona! Her art is too cute to resist! It was great watching her stream and just watching the whole process! she did a great job on Li-Li! id love to commission her again sometime! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5915580/ its the first one with a ton of colors XD poizenkat Jun. 17th, 2011 06:06 pm (local) 1. Pursuit 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/pursuit 3. june 6th-june 9th 4. Pursuit had opened up for iron artist speedpaints. They have beautiful and detailed art, so i jumped at the chance. i couldnt be more happy with how Li-Li looks in this piece http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5898759/ The way his face is drawn, he just looks so cool! and the pose fits his personality so well! poizenkat Jun. 17th, 2011 06:10 pm (local) Keitelwolf 1. Keitelwolf 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/keitelwolf 3. June 6th 4. Its always a pleasure commissioning Keitelwolf. she does wonderful art and she finishes in a nice amount of time. Her art is stunning and im AMAZED that she prices her badges so low. its insane and she really shouldnt! im sure many people would pay much more for her art! here is the one she drew recently for me; http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5885622/ she finished it the day i commissioned her! and it looks GREAT! poizenkat Jun. 17th, 2011 06:13 pm (local) Chibbums 1. Chibbums 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chibbums 3. a while ago. cant remember, sorry! 4. I love her adorable style and im so glad i managed to get a commission from her! I commissioned her for a clothes ref, Face ref (people always get my fursonas face markings wrong) and a feral ref all in one for Li-Li. She did a great job and got all of his markings right! i love how it came out and how cute he looks in her style! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5852265/ alex_dachshund Jun. 18th, 2011 04:10 am (local) Re: Chibbums I second this. I got a ref sheet from her too and I love how it came out. Definitely wonderful to work with. :) flarveon Jun. 19th, 2011 05:15 pm (local) Re: Chibbums Gonna third this, her work is lovely and she even fixed my ref sheet due to a missed marking! kalika_tybera Jun. 17th, 2011 06:25 pm (local) Red Dog 1. Name: Red Dog 2. Link: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/red-dog/ 3. Time: This month, as well as in the past. 4. Details: Commissioned a conbadge from her for Anthrocon pickup and it was completed within only a few days. Also commissioned her at Furfright a couple years ago and she was equally prompt with delivering quality work. Beautiful art style, and a pleasure to work with. Conbadge she made for me: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5883135 taelifoe Jun. 17th, 2011 06:47 pm (local) Pseudonymeter 1. Pseudonymeter 2. http://feignedsobriquet.tumblr.com/ 3. About five weeks ago. 4. Bought an ACEO from them online and was treated very professionally, great communication and the art was completed within a few days. Pseudo was kind enough to sketch a couple of examples for me to choose from, as I had no image references, and they even checked in with me after so long to ensure that my artwork had reached me safe and sound. Check it out!: http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd265/ceruleanwhale/taelifoe.jpg pinkpuppybelly Jun. 17th, 2011 07:32 pm (local) Abakan 1. Abakan "Abe" 2. furaffinity.net/user/abakan 3. I've worked with him every few months for over a year now. 4. Abe loves commissioning art, and always has plenty of ideas for you to choose from, depending on what subject matter you're interested in. He's also great and talking about ideas, and is very good at communication. Also, he's just a nice dude! likeshine Jun. 17th, 2011 10:32 pm (local) jennadelle 1. jennadelle 2. http://jennadelle.livejournal.com/profile http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5768456 3. i commissioned an icon around 10 am, and by the time i got home from the gym at 1pm it was done! 4. Details i've commissioned this artist several times before and she never fails to disappoint. she is quick, friendly, and does incredible work. vtforpedro Jun. 18th, 2011 12:00 am (local) Re: jennadelle Totally seconding everything here. :D I love the icons she did for me and I desperately want more! It's amazing how fast she is. likeshine Jun. 18th, 2011 12:23 pm (local) Re: jennadelle yes, and she seems to get how i'd like my character to look without me even telling her O.o amazing every time likeshine Jun. 17th, 2011 10:35 pm (local) toulouse 1. Toulouse 2.http://www.furaffinity.net/user/toulouse/ 3. commissioned an icon via FA note, and it was done the very same evening 4. i am blown away by toulouse's talent. i hope to commission them again in the near future! icon: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5737157/ likeshine Jun. 17th, 2011 10:39 pm (local) oCe 1. oCe 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/oce 3. commissioned an experimental icon late one evening, and received it in my email the following afternoon 4. i have been a big fan of oCe's for many years, so i am always stoked when i am able to snag a commission slot from her. she's quick, friendly, and quite professional. here is the icon: http://pics.livejournal.com/likeshine/pic/002xc5hf julian_wilbury Jun. 18th, 2011 01:58 am (local) Re: oCe Gotta second everything here, commissioned an icon really stinking late at night, got mine early the next evening, and the art is awesome as expected. Love 'er. likeshine Jun. 18th, 2011 12:23 pm (local) Re: oCe wow, yours is fantastic too! likeshine Jun. 17th, 2011 10:43 pm (local) blue nadir 1. blue nadir / sudanred 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sudanred/ 3. blue_nadir is doing these ridiculous cute love icons, and i got one as a gift for a friend via teenycom 4. incredibly cute artwork, super friendly, icon was done within a day or so, and my friend loved it :) i was so pleased that i've already been lucky enough to snag 3 more slots from blue_nadir :) so i'm sure you'll be getting another positive review from me soon! here is the icon, middle left http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5805109 alex_dachshund Jun. 18th, 2011 04:13 am (local) 9aia 1. 9aia 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/9aia/ 3. Sometime earlier this week. June 14th. 4. Commissioned this gal for a two-character chibi picture which cost $10. Very nice to talk to, and ask questions to. After accepting my payment, she finished my pic in a few days, on June 17th. Finished pic: http://www.furaffinity.net/full/5948062/ poizenkat Jun. 21st, 2011 04:02 pm (local) Re: 9aia Seconding this!! Really nice and finished so fast! alex_dachshund Jun. 18th, 2011 04:19 am (local) Uyu 1. Uyu 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/uyu/ 3. Several times, don't have the notes anymore so I can't give exact dates. 4. Love this guy's art. I also love the anime look he has in his art. He is so nice to talk to about a commission and really understands what you want to go for in your commission. I commissioned him three times for these pics: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5546216/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5625408/ (Slightly NSFW) http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5784481/ ...And, since I commissioned him multiple times, he drew me a gift! How sweet! http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5849027/ Definitely commission this guy if you love cute things or love anime-style furry art. You won't regret it. :) alex_dachshund Jun. 18th, 2011 04:25 am (local) Pichu90 1. Pichu90 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/pichu90 3. I commissioned him for an icon sometime around mid February. 4. Another cute furry artist I love! He does really adorable art, and icons. His icons are highly affordable, only $5! Definitely grab one when you have the chance! Here is the icon he's done for me: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5283708/ Here is his half of an art trade he has done for me a long time ago: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4390431/ Plus he has drawn me lots of gifts! Check them out: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5744163/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5884325 (Babyfur warning) He is a really nice guy, and he is great to talk to. Definitely commission if you love super cute stuff! torikonero Jun. 18th, 2011 05:53 am (local) Korrok 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/korrok 3. 2ish Weeks 4. I ordered a full-body traditional piece of a friend of mine. I asked her to tackle a subject she hadn't tried before (inflatable/shiny look). She sent several preliminary sketches and was more than happy to make minor corrections. The work was finished much quicker than most smaller pieces I have ever ordered, and it is in the mail on its way to me! I had an extremely pleasant experience with Korrok, and I would love to do business with her again. torikonero Jun. 18th, 2011 05:56 am (local) Zenithfoxie 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zenithfoxie 3. 2-ish Weeks 4. I ordered a full-body portrait of a friend of mine, of his inflatable/pooltoy character (a subject I do not believe Zenithfoxie has much experience with). I gave her several pose options and let her pick what she was the most comfortable with. She sent me several preliminary sketches, and the final piece was finished very quickly. Zenithfoxie is quick, businesslike, and extremely pleasant to deal with! straychowchow Jun. 23rd, 2011 03:15 am (local) Re: Zenithfoxie Seconding this. I've commissioned zenithfoxie more times than any other artists (I have around 13 or 14 portraits, a reference sheet, and an icon by her) and every time she is sweet, pleasant, and just plain fantastic to work with. notorious_hunty Jun. 18th, 2011 07:03 am (local) Zambi 1. Zambi/Zambicandy 2. http://zambi.deviantart.com/ 3. About two weeks ago. 4. I waited so long to commission her! She happened to have still been open! I had her draw me a full-body color image of my OC, Mena Mynxxx. I explained her that I'd pay on payday, gave her references and details. Paid on Payday as promised! She sent me a sketch that wasn't quite right so I pointed them out and she fixed it no problem! She got the final piece done just yesterday! I love her portrayal of Mynxxx! When she was done, she had asked if she needed me to change her skin color, and would be willing to fix, but I told her it was fine! Her style is amazing, so I recommend commissioning her <3 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/notorious_hunty/Mynxxxfinal.jpg notorious_hunty Jun. 18th, 2011 07:12 am (local) Wave-chan! 1. Wave/Irene Lee 2. http://suzuran.deviantart.com 3. 1-2 days 4. She had opened some cheap commissions including some chibis! I loved her meovel vs. catcom and Megaman Chibis so I just had to get one from her! ^_^ Communication was flawless and even got the sketch for me before I paid! Since it was a chibi, I didn't add too much detail, but forgot to ask what my character's relationship is with the canon character for a pose. I had explained it, but had no clue for a pose in particular, so I gave her some artistic freedom. There was a small error I pointed out, and she fixed it, no problem! And having done that.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/notorious_hunty/axlmynxx_col.jpg I'm really pleased with this piece, and so was she! ^_^ She had a lot of fun with it, which is what's the best part as a commissioning customer! Definitely recommend. pan_h_shiroi Jun. 18th, 2011 11:03 am (local) Kaitofenikkusu 1. Kaitofenikkusu 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kaitofenikkusu 3. Around end of May/ beginning of June. 4. He commissioned me for a logo. Communication was fast, smooth and he was very easy to do business with. Prompt payment. I have absolutely no complaints, in fact I am pleased with how our business went. Working for him was fun. pan_h_shiroi Jun. 18th, 2011 11:07 am (local) Darkwing 1. Darkwing 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/darkwingdragon 3. Around end of May/ beginning of June. 4. He commissioned me for a stylized line art. I have absolutely no complaints, I am pleased with how our business went. Fast communication, no payment issues, working for him was fun. pan_h_shiroi Jun. 18th, 2011 11:10 am (local) tobi3B 1. tobi3B 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/tobi3b 3. Around end of May/ beginning of June. 4. He commissioned me for a flat colored digital piece. Communication was fast, smooth and he was very easy to do business with. Prompt payment, I'm very pleased how well this went. Working for him was fun. sweepshire Jun. 18th, 2011 05:15 pm (local) Re: tobi3B Seconding this! He's commissioned me for several things, from sketches to shaded pieces, and he's been a pleasure to work with every time. celestinaketzia Jun. 21st, 2011 05:17 am (local) Re: tobi3B Thirding this! He's commissioned me a few times and he is so fantastic. pan_h_shiroi Jun. 18th, 2011 11:14 am (local) northwestspiritwolf 1. northwestspiritwolf 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/northwestspiritwolf 3. Around May/June. 4. She purchased one of my originals for sale and commissioned a companion piece for it as soon as it arrived. Communication went fine, fast and uncomplicated. Fast payment, no issues at all. This was fun. korsetkoat Jun. 18th, 2011 06:13 pm (local) Samyena 1. Samyena on FA 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/samyena/ 3. Two days ago. 4. Sam is real friendly, and quick too. My commission (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5946526) took less than an hour, as has almost anything I've commissioned her. I also have a personal preference to how she does shading, and her willingness to do strange looking creatures. hunter_san Jun. 19th, 2011 04:39 am (local) Lucareon 1. Lucareon on FA 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/lucareon 3. Last week/early June 2011 4. Commissioned me for the works (background/shading/colour/lines/ffx). Lucareon was a really polite and organised commissioner. Everything was straight-forward (used my quote query form! 10 points +), paid promptly, was really pleased with everything and just left me warm fuzzy feelings over. A+++ Will accept commissions from again ;) The absolute best point was when they encouraged me to rest after I mentioned being a day behind due to illness. mmyesidosay Jun. 20th, 2011 08:52 am (local) Vekke (had to delete previous comment due to having the wrong link in there X( ) 1. Vekke 2. http://vekke.deviantart.com 3. About a month ago 4. Her style is amazing :V Seriously, I love it to death, it makes me happy just looking at it. And shes so sweet and patient, just makes you feel welcomed, so I enjoy doing business with her :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/51631428@N05/5728594165/in/photostream mmyesidosay Jun. 20th, 2011 08:55 am (local) 1. BungleBearz 2. http://bunglebearz.deviantart.com/ 3. 2-3 weeks ago 4. Her coloring style is unique to me, and shes so dedicated to getting a great pic out once youve commissioned her. She had an injured wrist (which she let me know about before I placed the commission, and still got it out in great time. I hope your wrist gets better soon, if you read this <3 http://www.flickr.com/photos/51631428@N05/5714183769/in/photostream/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/51631428@N05/5852455183/in/photostream mmyesidosay Jun. 20th, 2011 08:58 am (local) Arekins 1. Arekins 2. http://arekins.deviantart.com/ 3. Last week 4.It was just a quick little pixel commission, so I wasnt expecting it to turn out as fantastic as it did! It looks great, I'm incredibly impressed, and the artist was very fast and professional. Would definitely love to nab something else from here again whenever she has the time :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/51631428@N05/5853013970/in/photostream/ mmyesidosay Jun. 20th, 2011 09:03 am (local) excess-0 1. excess-0 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/excess-0/ 3. Ordered earlier in the month, and waited in a queue. It was very short, considering how much work she had, and she was so polite and sweet by apologizing for the wait, when it really wasn't bad in any manner. 4. My frist ref sheet~ :D Based on a picture or two that I gave her, and maybe a short written description, she nailed Aunburian's look perfectly. I was taken aback by how perfectly she'd gotten my gryphonchica to look! So fast too, perhaps literally over night and it was done. And the artist is an absolute sweetheart to boot. Ive never had fun having quick, tiny chats with an artist like I did with her. Especially from such an incredibly talented artist, as they can come across as a bit intimidating at times, she was just amazing, and by the end I just wanted to give her a hug. haha http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5949168 unicorn_magic Jun. 21st, 2011 04:47 pm (local) hunter_san/weavermage 1. hunter_san/weavermage 2. Her Deviantart 3. April 2011 4. I think this was the best commission experience I've had. Weavermage was very prompt in all communications and the final art was exactly what I wanted. She worked with my suggestions and was pleasant to talk to. Everything was finished ahead of schedule. I definitely recommend her! ( The lineart in this image is what I commissioned.) kayla_na Jun. 21st, 2011 06:06 pm (local) 1. PurpleKecleon 2. http://papayakitty.com/ 3. May 2011 4. I rarely commission other artists, because usually when I want something panned out on a canvas, I do it myself. However, I'm too busy with commissions atm to really produce something nice for myself. So I asked PurpleKecleon to do a Pokemon-themed picture for me. Waited for about a month, but the wait was worth it (I think she had a fairly large list anyway). Anywho, the picture she made for me was just eye-candy in all aspects. I actually found myself drawn towards the fire and the water more in the image then the characters themselves. Expensive commission, but worth every penny. Plus, she's very nice to boot. :) Picture can be found here(WARNING: NSFW): http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5910646/ straychowchow Jun. 23rd, 2011 03:21 am (local) SoulsPoison 1. SoulsPoison 2. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/soulspoison/ 3. June 19th, 2011 4. I haven't met many sweeter artists than Soukspoison. Not only was she very kind and prompt in her responses, the art was recieved the very next day. I highly suggest commissioning her, especially for her wonderful brush pen pieces. I may be getting another one, soon. For those curious, the finished commission: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5971188

Jun. 20th, 2011 at 3:13 PM clevercdn WHO: pikminlink WHERE: http://pikminlink.deviantart.com/ WHAT: Request for digital art. Bust of character. WHEN: Commissioned Dec 27, 2010. Update request: Feb 8, 2011 2nd Update request: May 10, 2011 3rd Update request: June 1, 2011 Art Received: June 7, 2011 Request for modification: June 8, 2011 PROOF: Complete Conversation: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/hmm/1screenshot.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/hmm/2screenshot.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/hmm/3screenshot.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/hmm/4screenshot.png http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/hmm/5screenshot.png Images that were linked/referenced in the original request: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/sisippurdy.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/sisglamour.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/sispertty.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/sisbeach.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/sisip/necklacefromkev2.jpg Delivered Piece: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2651600/skiestuff/hmm/sisip_pikminlink.jpg EXPLAIN: I was referred to this artist by a friend and was quite excited to see that her commissions were open. I submitted my request for commission and was given a slot and told it would be a 'couple of weeks'. Unfortunately after that the communication only happened when I started it. I do understand she has a very hectic schedule but it felt as if I was being pushed to the wayside. When I did finally receive my piece it looked a bit rushed and not quite as I had hoped. I do understand artistic licensing but there was a significant difference between my reference photographs and the final product. I did tell her, once I received it, that I loved it.. because the relief at getting the final project made me jump at giving her some feedback, however after I had time to look at the finer details I realized that it wasn't quite as I'd wanted (as example the necklace looking like it was copied from the reference photo, pasted on and then given a filter to give it a similar appearance). A message explaining this was sent to her and I'm now waiting for acknowledgment that it was even received. Will update when further communication is received and/or issue resolved. ? Edit: Artist has made contact and explained details satisfactorily. I consider this event closed/handled. ?

I've been in contact with her since making this post and I believe we'll be working things out just fine! I'm going to put the entry behind a LJ cut but other than that will not be editing it or deleting it in any way for the sake of the community rules and what not, thank you! WHO: LadyAvali WHERE: LadyAvali and Altana on DeviantArt, Avali on tumblr WHAT: $20 Digital Sketch Commissions WHEN: April 20th - commissions open and paid for. Last communication on May 19th. PROOF: Various screenshots of the dates mentioned below in case of deletion: Journal #1 - Journal #2 - Journal #3 - Journal #4 - My last communication with her - Note about her moving accounts EXPLAIN: Back on April 20th, she posted a DevArt Journal saying she was doing some very lovely sketch commissions for $20 USD. She had 15 slots, so at $20 a pop, that's a hefy $300 all in advance - I believe the slots were cleared out in less than 24 hours. Now, I have never paid for a commission 100% in advance - sometimes I'll pay after a sketch phase or when the piece is half done - but this was my first time paying in advance. I normally wouldn't have, but she has done this style of commission before and it seemed to go very well, so I thought it would be okay. On April 23rd, she posted on DevArt that she was going out of town for the weekend and would be "having a livestream on Monday" to get these knocked out. On May 3rd, she posted on DevArt that the bad weather was keeping her from working on commissions. I understand tornados, bad weather, etc - I live in Tornado Alley myself - but considering that was 10 days after she posted about just being gone for the weekend... On May 18th, she once again posted that the 'last few commissions' were going out. By this point, I had sent her a polite message asking if she had any updates about how long the sketches would take. The day after she made that journal, on May 19th, she sent me a note on DA asking for my reference info again (even though it was in that first post, like all other references). I sent it back to her that same day and I have heard nothing from her since. I have sent her one other polite message since then just asking for an update. Today, I stopped by DeviantArt again just to see if she had responded, and although she has not posted anything on her account, the user GoblinCrusher94 has gone around posting that she's "got a new account and this one is dead" on her comments. The new account is the one I linked to above, Altana (which actually seems like it's an old account she left, then returned to - or at least is planning to return to. It's very confusing). And of course on top of this, she is updating her art tumblr rather constantly. I'm not sure how many out of those 15 people haven't received their art, but I know for SURE at least one other hasn't, user nosebleeds, because he is a dear friend of mine and we've both been complaining about this a bit together, heh. I have no problem waiting a bit for commissions, I really don't - as long as the line of communication is kept open. When an artist stops responding all together to messages, changes DevArt accounts, doesn't update about it on her Journal and I KNOW I'm not the only one that got screwed... well. I think it's at least time to step up and say something. It doesn't help that it was a pre-paid commission, so like I said - if none of the 15 people have received their sketches, that's $300 she's basically pocketed while we all wait for our art not even knowing what Deviant Art account she's on these days. (sorry if this is a little tl;dr! I try to be as thorough as possible when I do something like this!)

Jun. 10th, 2011 at 12:09 AM latiro ETA: Larka returned and has internet connection, apologized that the commission is taking too long, and promised me to pay me back and finish the commission free of charge, according to her comment to this entry. Thusly, everything's resolved WHO: Larka/Heartlesswyvern WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/larka http://heartlesswyvern.deviantart.com/ WHAT: a full colored, BioShock-themed digital commission with two characters and a complex bg WHEN: February 2010 and current PROOF: Unfortunately, I don’t have screencaps of the Paypal receipt or the FA PMs (the PMs were deleted due to some FA hack incident), but as far as I remember, the pic cost $20. I do, however, have some screencaps of a few PMs sent to her on DA and can certainly explain what happened February 28, 2010: I paid her $20 for the pic March 6, 2010: I've watched her starting on the pic on Livestream, and all was fine (though she did take a break from it). I asked her to work more of it tomorrow and she agree March 12, 2010: Here’s the pic’s current state (as retrieved from one of her journals on DA) http://i39.tinypic.com/k6kvk.jpg Since then, I’ve been contacting her on MSN, asking if she’s working on the commission and her response is “Yeah, I’m working on it.” Unfortunately, I still hadn’t got the finished version of the drawing since the updated one March 13, 2011: a year later, I’ve sent her a PM on DA regarding my commission since several months have passed Unfortunately, it’s read and ignored. Weird March 22, 2011: Since 9 days past and the note is left unanswered, I’ve sent her another PM, but only this time, I politely asked her to either finish the pic altogether or refund if she didn’t had it finished (ignore the fact that I wrote $32 instead of $20 in the PM) The response: My reply: So here am I am, keeping my fingers crossed for it to be finished for good... but I haven't heard from her since then. She hasn't been on FA or DA since April 30 I know she has a busy time moving to a new house and has no internet, but I really don't wanna be left screwed over EXPLAIN: I’ve known her and adored her art for a long time, but I’m not too happy about her taking too long on the commission I paid $20 for and not finishing it (though she did finished two other commissions I paid for, which is good). Usually, I don’t mind having mildly tardy/late commissions and I always remind artists the pics I paid for (heck, I waited, like, nearly two years very patiently for one artist to finish a commission and got an extra pic to make up for the long wait), but having to pay $20 for a commission and waiting for a year without the final product? I’m... quite bewildered So Larka is quite tardy on the commission updates, implied that she’ll get around working on it (as I politely told her on IMs), and sometimes ignores PMs (regarding commission updates) after reading them (methinks she’s a little tough to contact via PMs). My deepest apologies for not having enough screencaps On different note to Larka: I deeply apologize for making this AB complaint about you, but I still haven’t received the final version of the commission that you promised you’d get around to. Whether I actually got the final product or not, whether you refund $20 or not, I probably won’t be commissioning you again. Sorry ? please note that that this was NOT an attack on Larka and her artistic reputation. I honestly didn't mean to do so, and yet she's angry at me for this and mentions that I've disrespected her. What she said about me was a lesson to me to not start drama like this anymore

Jun. 1st, 2011 at 9:03 PM riskanja WHO: collab account: tasteanddecency (deviantart) paradox (furaffinity), skankicide (deviantart) stage (furaffinity and deviantart, deactivated) WHERE: http://tasteanddecency.deviantart.com/ http://www.furaffinity.net/user/paradox/ http://www.furaffinity.net/user/stage WHAT: A remappable Furcadia portrait of my character Thyme. $10/16gd (Furcadia's currency) commission. Screenshots of order from February, 2010 and on. These conversations run from the bottom up, sorry, just because of how deviantart handles replies in threads. If you need more proof via screenshots of tasteanddecency's actual PMs, I will provide them, rather than just the embedded replies. http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv125/riskanja/screenshots2.jpg http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv125/riskanja/screenshots1.jpg WHEN: Commissioned February 12th, 2010; paid on February 18th, 2010. Contacted in September regarding a refund; was told portrait could be completed, and they didn't have the money to refund me. Given an outline of the image December 25th, 2010. Contacted again in April about finishing, was told it was next on the list. Contacted in May, no reply. Contacted alternate account in May, no reply. PROOF: It was after they started hiding comments on their journal entries (check their dA's only journal entry for my hidden comments, cry) so I have no record of the refund I asked for and was denied. However, the screenshots above are of my order, and here's a shot where they confirm my payment: http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv125/riskanja/Screenshot2011-04-15at112800AM.png EXPLAIN: I commissioned this portrait last February. There seemed to be some trouble completing things after that, and at some point in the summer Stage went away for a while, but I was at least still getting updates. After the summer, communication fell off. I asked for a refund on a journal they posted in September (no record; they keep updating the same journal entry, and hiding old, irrelevant comments), but they said they did not have the money at the time and would complete the portrait. I received an update in December with the lines: I approved them, and had no word after that until I contacted them on the tasteanddecency account in April. Here I'm listed as next in the queue (the responses are from back in April, too - I started keeping screenshots then, just in case): http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv125/riskanja/Screenshot2011-04-15at112400AM.png Again, no more contact, which brings us to this point. Contacted May 19 for an update: http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv125/riskanja/Screenshot2011-06-01at73910PM.png A week ago, I tried to contact Paradox on Furaffinity (since tasteanddecency seemed to be dead, and my dealings had always been through Para, not Stage): http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv125/riskanja/Screenshot2011-06-01at70832PM.png At this point, I've been told "we'll get to it!" for over a year. I do hope they get to it, and I have nothing personally against either artist (Para was always very nice and prompt with me otherwise!) but I'd at least like the beware to be known. Edit 11/30/11: Para has gotten in touch with me and this has since been resolved!