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  1. I personally would not as it would read to me like they aren't professional, and I do not think it's appropriate to ask. Much in the same way I would not appreciate a client pressing for details if I needed to cancel. If someone makes a habit of canceling transactions and asking for refunds, then I'd probably blacklist them for the inconvenience.
  2. What is the screenshot pointing out?
  3. Alright y'all let's keep this focused on the beware, not the ethics of tracing.
  4. This looks like fair pricing if not slightly under charged, but as you said this is a base price to be moved up if a client has a more complex character. Your style is lovely.
  5. ryai1 (ryai1) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2019-01-12 21:15 Commissioner Beware - Lemonadeadopts WHO: Lemonadeadopts WHERE: FurAffinity: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/lemonadeadopts/ WHAT: 4-page multi-panel comic WHEN: September 17th — January 2019 EXPLAIN: Primarily I commissioned Lemonadeadopts back in September after a previous commission. I had received a deadline of October for this one but sadly that was delayed. I questioned the artist about it a few times after that and the days kept getting pushed further and further back before finally when it came to being asked last week (after failing to complete the commission back on Christmas) as they promised to complete it Monday. They were not in discussion at all and I'm afraid I felt as if I was waiting way too long without any real response so I had to issue a refund. Following months of asking for updates or any signs of life and only being pushed back more and more and more, I'm a bit exhausted of waiting... I'm tired of attempting to comment or note them to little avail until they say "Hey, my internet was out for x long." But, as an artist myself you don't really need the internet to use most programs or continue drawing. PROOF: https://i.imgur.com/0TIydmg.png (Proof of downpayment / half payment for full price) https://imgur.com/a/igMIQGy (proof of initial transaction and any updates to reach me by Sunday back in October) ( Read more... ) https://i.imgur.com/jIrM6Py.png (Note transactions promising they'd get the commission done back in December 'in 3-days' and then "dedicating Monday to finishing it" just yesterday, there was no response from the artist all of Monday) </lj-cut>
  6. Eden

    Zrcalo

    You would be correct. We were under the assumption that users could still see their hidden comments like on the old site, but upon further testing the "mod note" option is simply for us for personal notes. We will have to pm users manually for rejected comments.
  7. Eden

    Zrcalo

    I attached a moderator note explaining why. We do not accept excessive personal information. Please review our commenting rules. Artist to artist that kind of information really isn't the client's problem. There was nothing stopping you in that time from contacting them about a personal delay.
  8. I get a lot of work through a single apparel company, and this is exactly the kind of agreement I send them at the close of every transaction.
  9. This is the mirror from a Livejournal post, but I'll point the OP to this.
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  12. Your feelings are definitely valid as it is your friend's job to make sure to keep track of what you are owed. Unfortunately there's not going to be an easy solution to this. You know your friend's personality better than us, so how do you think your friend would react? Either way a good friend should be able to hear you out that you feel concerned that you're having to do the legwork for them. You wouldn't be out of line to have a polite conversation with them about how your friend is lacking in organization, and now you want a time frame for completion of your work or a refund.
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    1. SynViver

      SynViver

      YAY YOU ARE THE BEST! ❤️

  15. Added submission guidelines. Added a light theme (thanks Alex!) Added rules page. Tag searching information is now on bewares. I broke the slider, but added in a new slide for "So, you've been posted to Artists Beware" (don't tell Alex I broke the slider) Slider is fixed, reduced in size, and has a longer delay between slides. About US page added Commenting rules now in an announcement rather than cluttering beware page.
  16. It would most likely be a beware. But submitters don't have to worry about trying to categorize their submission. We'll do that for you.
  17. Commissioning art of a character without permission is something we allow. Provided it's the exact character and not a "seems similar" situation.
  18. Eden

    Zrcalo

    This precisely. A basic First Class envelope with tracking costs under $5. I don't understand why the artist didn't ship it in that manner.
  19. Eden

    Beware: Kircai

    That's enough. You have a refund, and this is being locked as there are no more productive things to be said. All that's happening are potshots at each other, and that's not what we are here for. Edit: I also want to stress that the artist is within their rights to refund you. He didn't claim that you threatened with a chargeback. He said that he felt you were the type of client who might do so when they aren't getting their way. This is his way of washing his hands of this transaction, and at this point you need to leave him alone from here on out. He's established a boundary, and it's time to respect it. Also, he's within his rights to repurpose art as he sees fit. You don't own it. This transaction is resolved, because the artist has chosen to resolve it. Please understand that if you continue to poke and prod at him when he's already made it clear that he wants this to be over and done with that you risk the artists who read this not wanting to work with you in the future.
  20. lunahasawa996 (lunahasawa996) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2019-01-05 12:21 Beware - UnderTheDarkness WHO: UndertheDarkness WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/underthedarkness/ WHAT: $5o YCH action WHEN: May 15,2018 — present EXPLAIN: Given the user has deactivated their FA, I cannot provide images of the YCH I had bought. But sometime in May of 2018 I had placed bids on, and won a YCH from this artist. Over time, I believe I was given only one WIP. Shortly after they had their problems and such and I noticed they weren't speaking with me. I had asked for an update a month after with a reply of "I will have an update sometime this week". Later I was given an update. Later on they were doing in stream commissions, which was indeed finished and received, but my prior one was still on the back burner. Jump to December of last year I learned they were doing refunds, and I was added to their list of the many people for the money they owed me. Jump forward after 3 weeks from providing refund information to present time, their FA has since been deactivated and I have no other means of contacting this person. I should have opened a refund claim during the window when I noticed it was looking unlikely I'd be getting my art, but being the overly sympathetic understanding person I am it looks like this person has officially ran off with $50 of my hard earned cash. PROOF: Proof of payment: https://prnt.sc/m3b3uv Asking for a WIP: https://prnt.sc/m3b4al WiP provided: https://prnt.sc/m3b3z3 WIP Uploaded Jun 24th *NSFW*: https://prnt.sc/m3b5cn Providing them refund information: https://prnt.sc/m3b4in I'm honestly shocked she went and took this rout. At this point I don't even want the artwork, I just want my money back where it can go towards a more reputable artist that I've previously worked with. </lj-cut>
  21. Eden

    Beware: Kircai

    We've been in operation elsewhere for well over ten years, so please don't apologize! We thank you for coming here and taking the time to speak on your beware. I will be issuing a resolved tag.
  22. Eden

    Beware: Kircai

    You would be correct, but we asked mentions of that incident to be removed from the beware because an artist is welcome to establish boundaries.
  23. ravensmoon666 (ravensmoon666) wrote in artists_beware, @ 2018-12-31 16:40 Artist Beware: Underthedarkness WHO: Underthedarkness WHERE: Furaffinity, Toyhouse, Trello. WHAT: A 40$ full body flat and a 90$ YCH. WHEN: 05/01/2018 for the flat colours and 05/19/2018 for the YCH until the current date. EXPLAIN: I will say in advanced I do not have as much proof of all of this as I'd like, we used to talk over notes for previous commissions but after she invited me to her Discord server we talked over Discord DM's. I never had her added as a friend on there since I could just DM her because I was in her server. While this was going on I had closed our DM conversation by accident as I close ones I am not currently using and only found out about her jumping ship after I went to message her and noticed she removed me from her server (or just deleted it all together.) I cannot open our DM's unless she is a friend or I know her ID which I do not. Everything below is mostly written from memory with rough date estimates. I used to commission Under a lot and didn't have that many issues outside of her being very slow with commissions (From personal experience and dates I had noticed on her public Trello from other people commissioning her). Recently I had commissioned her for a reference of my persona and she did a really amazing job (I did end up paying her extra money to rush it though as I wanted it done soon) so when I saw she was steadily posting journals talking about how she was desperate for money and opening for emergency commissions I felt bad and had messaged her asking her if I could commission her to do a dragon-taur rendition of my persona. She said she had never drawn one before but she could try. I told her that if it was too hard for her and she ended up not liking it she could scrap it and chose another one of my characters to draw instead. She agreed, I linked her my characters to chose from if stuff went wrong and we exchanged details. She had been posting a lot of journals still talking about how she needed money and posting YCH's. She was having a hard time selling this one YCH commission I liked a lot but I didn't have the money for. She had reduced it from 100 down to 80 before removing it later, and I ended up messaging her to ask if it sold. She told me no that she didn't think anyone was interested so she just removed her. I asked her if she could hold it till next pay period and she agreed. She told me I could either pay the reduced price or more but it was my choice and I met her in the middle and sent 90$ About a month later she gives me an extremely rough sketch (basically just the body roughly sketched and the top half being the anatomy skeleton shapes) I approved it and she went quiet. I didn't hear much from her but kept an eye on her journals. She majorly had journals over the next few months talking about breaking up with her ex, losing her job, getting a new job, family problems etc. She kept taking on more commissions, even doing in-stream ones and not really working on her others. Sometime in October I noticed the chargeback date was coming close and given her history with being slow on commissions and noticing how bad she "needed money" I was worried that she wouldn't get my commission done for a while and messaged her telling her I was sorry and I felt like an asshole but that I had to put my foot down despite knowing everything she was going through but I was going to be needed a refund. She messaged me telling me that she understood and that I wasn't an asshole but that since she had no money it would be a while, but if I gave her another month she would get the art done. I told her I loved her artwork and wouldn't mind waiting but if it went further than that I would have to go down the refund route, she said she understood and we went on. (My mistake as I should have started the dispute then) Occasionally she'd send me a message telling me she would work on my comm soon, and halfway through the time she started working on the YCH and sent me a sketch. It barely had any work added to it, basically just went over the already drawn outlines and reduced the characters breast size (something I had asked as my character is supposed to have small breast and the YCH by default had large ones) I approved it and she went silent once again. The date for a month had come and gone, I even gave her a few days longer just in case before I went to Paypal to open a case, I knew I was already too late for the first commission but thought I still had a day or two for the second one (I opened both anyways) and Paypal automatically declined them because of them being outside the date. I knew the only hope I'd get my money back was if I messaged her so I went and messaged her telling her I would need a refund. She said that she thought I would at least give her "till the end of the month" (when I asked for a refund the month before it was midway through the month, not at the end) and that she didn't have the funds but would give me a refund when she could. Not too soon later I saw she had uploaded a journal saying she would be refunding EVERYONE on her queue and that she was depressed and no longer felt like drawing so she felt this would be easier. She said she would be looking at how much she owed everyone and would post how much she owed everyone on a public list. She also started "spamming" her TH trying to sell her characters for refunds. A few days later she posted a journal stating that someone had forced chargebacked her and she was in the negative so refunds would take longer. Halfway through December, she sent me a message saying she would be able to give me at least a partial refund in January and I told her I was happy she was keeping me updated and thanked her. She had also moved her refund list to her profile info. 12/30/2018: I was going through my Discord servers and noticed that hers was no longer on my list. I had a sinking feeling and went to check her FA and sure enough, it's disabled. I tried all kinds of methods to try to find our closed chat to no avail, I remembered a user that used to be a friend of hers/ on the refund list so I decided to message them and see if they knew anything/ at least knew her Discord ID so I find our messages. 12/31/2018: I woke up to a message from the said friend and they said they were pretty sure she deleted her discord as it no longer showed them as friends anymore and that she wasn't answering her text but if they found out anything they'd let me know. Before I could respond they then sent me another one saying that Under had blocked them on everything, including Twitter and Instagram and that it was heartbreaking as they were best friends. So I'm pretty sure Under has completely jumped ship. (I have these notes still if screencaps are needed but since it was kinda personal I didn't feel comfortable/ thinking it would be allowed) I saw that her TH was still active so I left a shout telling her I was appalled and that I would be writing an AB/ trying to go through my bank. PROOF: Proof of payment: https://i.imgur.com/6bQZYYc.png Announcing refunds: https://i.imgur.com/1QIy2fH.png Chargeback journal: https://i.imgur.com/bN8Q3ZQ.png Refund list journal: https://i.imgur.com/AiG3nwi.png According to this she owes people in total (including me) at least 1,271$ I honestly somewhat wouldn't mind just having the art completed but in the end, I'd rather just have my money back and be done with it. I'm very upset with her and myself as I knew better than to let it go outside the chargeback date but I did it anyway. I'm thinking about contacting my bank to see if there is anything that can be done from other transactions I've had with her but even then it won't add up to the amount she owes me.
  24. Eden

    Beware: Kircai

    Ahh, so that's what you mean by filled out the form wrong. Contact should have been made with the client immediately when their written prompt didn't match the form. So this boils down to lack of communication and lengthy wait time, but a single char is what the client ordered.
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