I am writing this beware for the client editing my art to remove credits without my permission. The client then filed a false chargeback claiming I served them a DMCA after I reported the images to the website staff and requested them to be taken down as I still retained copyright as the original artist. I am contesting these chargebacks with PayPal but felt the need to make this beware in case I lose.
I was approached by Ravensmoon666 to do a ref sheet (sfw and NSFW variants) of her Abyss Drake character, Eclipse back in March of this year, leaving me very excited to do more work of this species. I quoted the client $570 after breaking down the prices on what they were asking for, and they paid the invoice in 3 installments when I was finally free to take their order.
My native language is not English, thus some screen caps being in Russian. I also needed to edit some as I saw I failed to censor names, so some images contain less quality in my haste to post this.
I worked hard to get the art done, making sure to send multiple WIPs along the way and made edits as need be.
One the images were done and accepted, I sent over the final pieces and Raven sent the final payment. I also e-mailed them the files.
After uploading the images to my gallery on FurAffinity, I was noted that I was doing artwork for a character thief. Not wanting to be dragged into the drama I notified the client after they approached me for 2 more commissions that I did not feel comfortable drawing said character anymore, which was not taken well by the client. They then proceeded to try to link me to beware and some other site about the species creator as well as making very negative claims about them to get me to agree to still draw the character. Given my health is bad and stress makes things worse, I still refused.
Sometime this month I was soon notified on FurAffinity that Raven had edited out the credits I placed crediting the species creator in my original images I had sent them and showed these edited images in her gallery. She had originally posted the originals, but must have changed them when I told her I would no longer do art for her of this character. I don't understand why.
My originals showing credits:
Their edited uploads:
Seeing this I shot them a note, which was read but never replied to.
Seeing I wasn't going to get a reply and had given the client ample time to change the images back, I then notified FurAffinity staff of this, and given I still retained copyright as the original artist, asked to have the images taken down from her gallery.
Seeing the images were taken down I was ready to leave things be only to find the client had issued a chargeback for their commission under "Goods or service differ from the description" claiming I had filed a DMCA against them and blocked them and that they aimed to charge back all their payments.
I immediately contested with evidence that these are false claims.
I am now waiting for PayPal to get back to me. My account now sits in the negatives in the mean time.
On November 15th Roger had posted a YCH that interested me, I had reached out to him and secured a slot in the YCH list. Upon securing a slot I was met with a very polite person who gathered the information required and quickly sought out to work. I had received a few updates within the week of paying them, and was really excited to see the finished product!
However after a few weeks, I had not heard anything or received any updates, so I reached out and Roger explained that a few design choices I made may take longer, I reassured him that that would be fine and to take his time and not stress over it!
After a while I still had not heard or received any progress updates, and had sent a few messages with a month in between, I know with Covid during January things kinda were starting to go upside down, so I was understanding!~
They finally responded and apologized and said they didn't mean to ghost me. I shrugged it off and told them not to worry about it. I then waited another 3 months with 1 message probing for updates once each month, with no response, when in march he finally responded with a screenshot of a small portion of the commission. I was pleased to see any progress at this point, as it has been quite a few months for a simple YCH. I praised them for their work and then waited for the next update to come, hopefully soon.
For the last 5 months I've sent 1 message each month, asking for any sort of updates or response, and despite twitter saying that most of them were read, no response. This time I was getting worried, as they were posting frequently on their feed, but not responding to DM's.
So I figured maybe I'll try messaging them on FA, maybe twitter DM's were messed up or something. So I proceeded to message them on FA, and about a day later I noticed that the message had been read, at the time of writing this post, that was almost 2 weeks ago.
I really don't like going to this level with artists, especially those that I have commissioned in the past, but I am apparently not the only one, according to a recent shout on their FA shout list. So I just want to caution whoever I can, they draw great art, but just be mindful if you consider commissioning them!
This post it not to bash Jay in any way, but to warn people about people who might want to invest in Lmj in other fundraisers and future projects.
So about a year ago, Lil miss Jay started a fundraiser.
The deck costed around 50. but if you wanted to donate more, you could get rewards as advertised.
And I went for the 500 dollar rewards
As you can see, the dates match. I was supposed to get nude edits of cards of my choice, 2 oc drawings, other decks from past series, and have my own custom cards of said oc drawings. none of these have happened nor have been shown any progress. After the deadline has passed, there was hardly any updates. Months began to pass and I was starting to get impatient. I would think that he would want to keep tabs on me right? One of his biggest supporters? No.... it's just been silence after the dead line.
I was starting to begin that I made the wrong choice to support him, that this was all a scam. I spent a lot of money and I have nothing to show for it. Recently someone showed me this link.
https://refundmissions.tumblr.com/submit
So I submitted one and contacted him.
When he said that I would still pay production, I thought he meant the base price of 50.
He also owes me another comm worth 75, but that's unrelated.
He is only planning to refund 75.... which is the oc drawing. only one reward is being refunded.
And also, a reward that was meant for the 200 backers was taken off because he made a lot of money? Then what was the point of that tier?
Now I feel like I've truly been scammed. Only being refunded for one reward.
His reasoning.
His reason is basically that it's "still happening", so he should keep the money...
I wanted a refund because it still has yet to happen!
It's almost been a year and I am highly disappointed. In me and mostly for Jay.
I've spoken to others who also gave their support and are just as disappointed.
Which is what got me to do this beware.
I'm not saying to not comm Lmj, since he still needs the money to payback his debts and obligations.
And to reiterate, warn people, that if you invest in Lmj, you might end up being disappointed as well.
Hello there, I am Kitteh6660 and I'd thought I would share a bad experience with what I had with the artist. As of the time of writing, I never received the icon and the artist likely has forgotten about that.
It all started out back in June 2018 when I saw an offer for a cute icon and I'd thought, why not? A cheap art for a cute icon I would use for my profile.
It all started out by sending notes and discussing what I wanted: an icon of me drinking a root beer. Innocent and simple, right? It's the type of icon that could be finished in a relatively short time.
I paid the invoice back then and hoped for the art to come. I even got a WIP but then it abruptly never got finished. And the WIPs are deleted for some reason. Unfortunately, it's way past the 6 month deadline for a refund so that is no longer possible.
The WIPs were deleted. Sadly.
I once had contact of her on Discord but the text message logs just vanished and I can no longer retrieve the messages. She once had a server but it was also deleted. I don't think she's even on Discord anymore.
I know $7.00 USD isn't a lot but I am very upset. I am a forgiving person but if I can ever get the finished artwork, I'd completely forgive her.
Her FA profile but she seems to no longer be active as her last activity seems to be a year ago: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/sinnamon-queen
As of today, I never even got the artwork and none of the submissions on my gallery are from her. It's supposed to be a headshot commission with a root beer.
I had contacted them in March because I really enjoyed their art and they were open for commissions. We had talked a bit and and settled on a three character commission. The price was really cheap essentially being 1 usd per character. However I paid them and they never delivered, I went back to check on them and they said they had “personal problems” jump forward months later, today I went to check up on them only to find out I was blocked. I’m not complaining about the fact I lost about 3 Usd but more of the fact that they took the money and ran.
Contacted him via E-mail, where we confirmed the commission script idea then moved to discord for faster chat.
In discord we settled on the price/rates where I proceeded to pay half up front on 9/15/19 (150 USD) (censored Screen shot below)
They worked on the first page which was submitted for review and verification on 10/17/19
They have had zero responses in discord since 10/17/19. (screen shot below)
I sent a check up via discord, which states a generic either no longer valid/blocked response.
I found the original contact e-mail and sent a update request and have still received no response.
I found his twitter and sent him inquiry on the discord issue, they sent a response confirming their discord was still active (so that means it had to be blocked), so confirmed why I was contacting them.
Upon realizing this was regarding a commission they flaked on they then blocked me on twitter as well. (screen shot below)
at this point it's been 9 months since the last actual confirmation of any work from the artist with all attempts to contact them resulting in ghosting/blocks.
I have never written a Beware before. I didn’t even want to make this one, but this is completely unacceptable and future buyers should be aware. This is a small time fursuit maker by the name of Majeste. Back on June 23rd 2020, I purchased a custom set of puffy paws with claws after having talked details of the design and other pertinent information. I was quoted $190 and paid the full $190. Remember that price was QUOTED TO ME, because it will be relevant later on.
Majeste, at first, I had no issues with. The paws were going to take a little while and that was fine, that had already been established up front. The design of the paws was reviewed and I picked out my fur and minky fabrics that would be used to make these paws. I was under the impression that the fabrics that I chose WITH Majeste’s help would be the exact furs ordered and used on my paws. I don’t get any updates for a couple weeks, which again, is fine, I was aware of the time frame for paws turnaround. However, the issue comes in when Majeste sends me a WIP photo. I could see the backing of the pink minky looked strange, textured, but I don’t sew, I don’t work with materials, so I didn’t know. I wasn’t concerned at this point. I had no reason to believe the fabric was not the fabric I chose.
The next photo I received was of one finished paw. This is where the major issue comes into play: the minky on the paws was NOT the minky I had chosen/agreed upon when the order for the paws was placed. I had been given no prior indication of this change. At first, I sort of glossed over it. It was devastated, but I didn’t want to become a nightmare customer or cause issues. I assumed Majeste would have a solution in mind. Majeste did not at all offer to fix the problem up front, she did not even address it until I did first. As if it was no issue. I still wanted my paws, but I was extremely unhappy. I paid for a service and product, and neither was delivered as promised/agreed upon. I paid $190 for paws the way they had been discussed, not with a change in minky. I will admit, I became more agitated and less willing to accept this work as the conversation went on.
At this point, I did not want to prolong the wait time, and I did not want to be treated as an inconvenience. I suggested upgraded shipping as a fair means of coming to a resolution. Majeste would have to make no refund, no alterations - simply mail the paws with an upgraded shipping method. This is where she becomes extremely aggressive with me. She tries to have me pay MORE to even FIX the paws in the first place, otherwise they won’t be fixed. She tells ME that MY behavior is unacceptable and tells me I’m scamming her. Scamming her after I had already paid the $190 for my paws. Right. She continues, saying she already discounted my paws (I never asked for any discount, Majeste herself quoted me the price of $190 from the get go, as mentioned earlier) and if I want things to be “fair”, I’ll pay the difference of her “usual” paw price and she’ll fix them.
Needless to say, I was extremely upset by this interaction. As a paying customer, I felt completely sidelined and overall unhappy with the finished result of my custom made product. Now, I’m going to have to have these fixed myself. In the end, Majeste did ship them and provide a tracking number to me. I do not have the paws in my hands as of writing this, but I would like to update based on the quality of the paws I do receive. There are LOTS of screenshots, as this is the entire conversation as it took place on Amino. Please. Proceed with extreme caution if you are considering working with Maj-Mania749.
Attached are all the screenshots of every interaction I had with Majeste. I included everything, even the conversation bits, so there’s nothing lost and all context is there. Hopefully it’s all in order!
Back in 2018 I had stumbled apon a (mainly) TF2 artist, I had initially asked her for a 2 character half body piece. She accepted and the transaction was sent (sent via Steam items equal to her prices at the time):
About 3 days later I was given a WIP piece, making me believe that the commission was soon to be done with.
After that I had sent an update ref, and a bit later she sends me saying that its done shes just on the shading now (I was not given an update photo of it 'done' asides some shading).
I (on steam) had asked her to change it to my Pyro loadout in game (hence why I asked that, but steam convos delete themselves) and just to make an icon instead of a half body. She was fine with this and proceeded to tell me that it was done and on her PC but she couldn't access it due to it being finals week and her not being allowed on her PC during them.
This was the last message I sent to her, and I have yet to hear any updates. The bit I don't have screenshots for was her telling me she'd refund me on Steam, and .. steam being the way it is. There's no way for me to retrieve those messages unfortunately. But this has been over 2 years, and she has completely ghosted me. As well as continued advertising commissions, whilst leaving mine unfinished and forgotten about.
I don't have much photo proof due to.. this being like 75% of conversations that went on.
On the 8th of April this year I asked xBlueAshesx about a Lion King YCH. She then accepted, I gave her my PayPal info and paid. Unfortunately I don't have the acceptance PM anymore, but here's a screenshot of the PayPal payment as proof.
On the 13th of July, it'd been almost 3 months and I hadn't received anything back from xBlueAshesx yet, not even a WIP picture. I suggested a refund if she hadn't started on the art piece yet. This PM was read, but never replied to.
After 6 days with no acknowledgement, it was then that I decided to request a chargeback. xBlueAshesx finally replied and offered to finish the piece. I refused, feeling like it would be rushed.
Her final PM said I would receive a refund and also how I should "read an artist's TOS in the future", which I actually did do before placing the commission. I would've been happy to wait 3 months, I've actually waited that long for commissions in the past, but like I said, I was expecting to see a WIP pic at this point at least. Sadly, nothing.
I'm now blocked by her on Furaffinity and no longer able to contact her. She continues to take on new commissions.
