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  • Beware: Fytch


    Meryiel
    • Who: Fytch (FurAffinity), ♤Fytch♤#0554 (Discord)
      Where: On Discord, payment done with PayPal.
      When: 03/21/2019
      What: Commission


    On the 19.03.2019 a person nicknamed Fytch contacted me in order to commission a custom base from me, which they would later use to sell YCH art with. On the 20.03.2019, they asked me for my PayPal link in order to pay me.

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    I haven't received the payment at that point but I continued to work on the drawing nerveless. On the 21.03.2019, I finally received the payment and was able to send the base in a psd file to Fytch. They also paid me 25$ instead of 15$ for my hard work.

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    And all was fine until today (17.07.2019). I logged to my PayPal, just to learn that the payment from Fytch got refunded because of an "unauthorized transaction". My account got sustained until the whole situation gets cleared out.
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    At the moment when I'm typing this, my account is still at loss for 23,27 USD.

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    Please, let me know if you find someone using the base seen below to earn profits with it. THEY DO NOT OWN THE RIGHTS TO IT! Thank you.
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    That's pretty low. If this base crops up anywhere, you should be able to file take down notices on most sites they try to sell.

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    I got a Note from other person today saying that they are in the same situation as I am because of Fytch as well...

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    Just now, Meryiel said:

    I got a Note from other person today saying that they are in the same situation as I am because of Fytch as well...

    Send them our way so they can make a report, too!

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    I literally just logged in to write a report about Fytch as well..... Wow.

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    14 hours ago, Rendrassa said:

    That's pretty low. If this base crops up anywhere, you should be able to file take down notices on most sites they try to sell.

    Yes, I know. Thank you, hopefully I'll be able to track them down.

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    47 minutes ago, Celestina said:

    Send them our way so they can make a report, too!

    I did! They told me that they're gathering proofs.

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    39 minutes ago, Nico89 said:

    I literally just logged in to write a report about Fytch as well..... Wow.

    Oh no, I'm so sorry it also happened to you. 😥 I hope the Fytch person gets what they deserve.

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    I got this message today and I pray for it to be true. If I get my money back and all gets explained, I will delete this beware as soon as possible.edit_scam.png.dcb1e3a4e5df49b971ece1f9eb2d20a4.png

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     Paypal does not do chargebacks whatsoever, they only handle disputes within their own system. They're using Paypal as a scapegoat. They filed the chargeback themselves through their bank or credit card carrier (which Paypal told you when referencing the financial institution). They're operating a scam. 

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    6 hours ago, Meryiel said:

    If I get my money back and all gets explained, I will delete this beware as soon as possible.

    Bewares cannot be deleted, only marked as resolved. Their name can still be cleared with an edit and proof that they fixed the problem.

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    6 hours ago, Meryiel said:

    I got this message today and I pray for it to be true. If I get my money back and all gets explained, I will delete this beware as soon as possible.edit_scam.png.dcb1e3a4e5df49b971ece1f9eb2d20a4.png

    We don't allow post deletion as that undermines the purpose of the site. (Member accounts can't enter into edit/delete mode.)  We will mark it as resolved when you tell us it is.

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    Update!

    PayPal decided that I do not deserve to get my money back even though I sent them proofs of me sending my PayPal to Fytch and screenshots of Fytch admitting that the payment for commission has been sent.

    Thanks PayPal.

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    11 minutes ago, Meryiel said:

    Update!

    PayPal decided that I do not deserve to get my money back even though I sent them proofs of me sending my PayPal to Fytch and screenshots of Fytch admitting that the payment for commission has been sent.

    Thanks PayPal.

    Since this is a bank chargeback PayPal has little say in what happens. If you used their automated system, then it's imperative that you drop everything you're doing and call them. Using their automated system is almost a guaranteed loss, and it's always best to call them.

    In some instances PayPal has been known to cover the loss themselves. Unfortunately this usually can only happen if you call while the claim is in process, but PayPal has been known to help after the fact.

    It's also important to remember that we don't know if this is a case of buyer's remorse or if Fytch was using a CC they had no authorization to use. If the CC was stolen, then there's an unlikely chance the bank will back down as the victim of theft should be made whole.

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    35 minutes ago, Celestina said:

    Since this is a bank chargeback PayPal has little say in what happens. If you used their automated system, then it's imperative that you drop everything you're doing and call them. Using their automated system is almost a guaranteed loss, and it's always best to call them.

    In some instances PayPal has been known to cover the loss themselves. Unfortunately this usually can only happen if you call while the claim is in process, but PayPal has been known to help after the fact.

    It's also important to remember that we don't know if this is a case of buyer's remorse or if Fytch was using a CC they had no authorization to use. If the CC was stolen, then there's an unlikely chance the bank will back down as the victim of theft should be made whole.

    I will try to call them tomorrow. But for now I have a bigger issue. Now it says that I owe them 43,27 dollars instead of 23,27 like before. I have no clue what is happening and why it's happening. I only made one transaction with that guy.

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    2 hours ago, Meryiel said:

    Update!

    PayPal decided that I do not deserve to get my money back even though I sent them proofs of me sending my PayPal to Fytch and screenshots of Fytch admitting that the payment for commission has been sent.

    Thanks PayPal.

    Oh no.... 😞 I am so sorry to hear that, that also means I am next to hear the same thing.
    Definitely try to call and talk to someone, update us after please! ♥

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    1 hour ago, Meryiel said:

    I will try to call them tomorrow. But for now I have a bigger issue. Now it says that I owe them 43,27 dollars instead of 23,27 like before. I have no clue what is happening and why it's happening. I only made one transaction with that guy.

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    This is a chargeback fee, and are standard with all chargebacks. At the very least with all of your evidence PayPal can opt to refund that. They are charged that by the bank and pass it onto you. 

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    1 hour ago, Celestina said:

    This is a chargeback fee, and are standard with all chargebacks. At the very least with all of your evidence PayPal can opt to refund that. They are charged that by the bank and pass it onto you. 

    Wow, what a bulll.... crap... So not only I have to return the money but also PAY EXTRA?!

    I think this is the last time I'm using PayPal, I swear.

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    29 minutes ago, Meryiel said:

    Wow, what a bulll.... crap... So not only I have to return the money but also PAY EXTRA?!

    I think this is the last time I'm using PayPal, I swear.

    Yes, chargeback fees are standard, and some CCs will increase them the more chargebacks you accrue over time.  This isn't a Paypal thing; it's a credit card thing.  Leaving Paypal and moving to another processor won't prevent you from receiving a chargeback fee in the event it happens again.

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