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  • Caution: Ssnaree


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    • Who: ssnaree
      Where: https://www.picuki.com/profile/ssnaree
      When: 12/13/2019
      What: Other (Explain Below)



    Message added by Eden

    We asked the OP to edit out an extremely personal set of messages sent to the artist, which is where the "I'm not going to read all that" cap starts off after.

    I joined snares group for his closed species, apophares, in late August 2019. It was an unfinished and unofficial closed species and I was allowed to make one. After an unrelated personal conflict, snare took away my character, Terra, and resold her without my explicit permission.

    I contacted him and offered to redesign her from being his species into a bunny, as the species is a rabbit and snake hybrid called apophares.  From what I was told I was under the impression snare would keep terra or she would be terminated. I reluctantly sent the art to avoid conflict under this impression. This was not the case.

    Snare is attempting to sell terra without my permission, and was selling her without crediting the art I made of her. I was willing to work with snare and he refused to come to a consensus with me keeping her despite me frantically apologizing and trying to work with him. I was speaking and working in a calm manner but he refused to let me keep her without even talking to me about why other than I was mean to him, when all I did was leave the group chat.

    If this was a full blown, complete species with a huge following I’d understand, but this species is not even complete or released to anyone except a few people that are his friends. The rules in the group chat were also not explicitly stated, as it’s a work in progress species, but they still applied fully even though it’s not listed anywhere specific.  

    He also is selling her saying he will give half of the profits to wildfires in Australia, which although that’s a good cause and decision, I feel he’s doing this so if I try to take down his post he can say I support Australia burning, in reality I’m absolutely terrified and think it’s horrific what those people and animals are enduring. 

    Attached are Terra’s original design as an apophare, her edits to be a rabbit, and then a full redesign. I drew both the edited one and the new one, and the ref was made using snare’s lineart (with permission).

    Videos are of me and snare’s conversation including my apology (although this is not what this beware is about, it’s about terra being sold unfairly). Instagram part is showing snare not crediting my art or design (he later did give me credit but he blocked all my accounts and I had to use the page of my dying cat to be able to contact him, which he then blocked). Telegram is what I was told regarding possession which I both misread and was misinformed of the real truth of what snare would do with her. 

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    So we actually reached out to Boozy Badger since he's written on adoptables and designs in the past, but he hasn't returned our message.  (Pretty easy for things to get lost when he probably receives a ton of messages.)  As far as we're aware "closed species" don't have rights, but "designs" do.  And given that you're the creator of the design, and never signed anything with this artist, you're the owner and can rescind usage to others at any time you want.  

    Ssnaree is vastly overstepping his bounds, and I've personally got a lot of opinions on "original species" owners who go on rampages.

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    And even if he tries that the moment he does that would only make this caution more valid and his reputation damaged in the process. I'm sure no one would be interested with his closed species especially with that attitude of his.

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