Uses deceptive wording and pressure tactics. Initially I was willing to forgive and assume inexperience, but the ask for double for delivery, then for a different commission, then for a 50% tip flew way past the acceptable line and drained the remainder of my good will.
End product (no watermark free copy was received) not received as of today 9/17/2024.
Artist reached out first after small talk and was the one who initiated conversation after I followed them on Tumblr.
I paid Lapis $100 for this YCH back in April of 2023, before I largely departed from the fandom. It was to contain two of my characters, one of which I don't even own anymore. This is proof of payment, as best I can manage, given it was done through boosty.
Immediately there seemed to be a trend of me having to ask multiple times for a response, and it would be five months from payment before I received any sort of WIP.
After several attempts to contact Lapis over ~4 MORE months, I finally received a long explanation as to why it hadn't been done yet. I strove to be amicable as I understand how bad burnout can get, as an artist myself.
After this, it would be a couple MORE months (over a year at this point) before I heard from her again. It took commenting on her FA, and eventually tracking her down on Telegram to finally get a response. I'm of the belief that clients should not have to hunt down their artists. Note: I HAD started an Artists Beware post, but as she started contacting me in the middle of revising it, I stopped because I thought she'd gotten her act together. She had not.
So anyway, under threat of an AB post, she suddenly regained the ability to respond to messages, and the following conversation ensued. I was willing to talk it out and admit that I had been speaking from a place of anger, and I figured things would be better from here.
Note: I traded one of the characters who was supposed to be in this YCH to someone, who apparently contacted Lapis asking them to change her to one of the characters that became mine in the trade. This was not my idea nor was I consulted about it in the slightest. Lapis did not even attempt to confirm this decision with me.
Unfortunately, she began ghosting me again.
I made several attempts over the last two-ish months to contact her, during which she apparently had time to post screenshots of FA's twitter in another server, but not to acknowledge any of my messages.
Blurred out the irrelevant FA Twitter drama.
Only when I publicly asked her to respond, did she decide to do so. The next images will only be screenshots of the conversation that followed in its entirety. I was very angry and my tone throughout reflects that- but after being strung along for 1.5 years, it's hard not to be.
I'll be the first to admit I was a bit pettier than I needed to be towards the end of this discussion, and my temper did get the best of me, but being told I am being unreasonable for not enjoying being flat-out ignored for over a year while she posts art/animations daily on VK.. well. I can only hope Lapis cleans up her act moving forward- she really is a very gifted artist.
Was in talks with the artist prior to commissioning them about ideas. Officially commissioned them February 12th, 2024 when I was invoiced and paid for a two character NSFW commission of my character Lumi and my spouse's character, Milosh with an alt version. The agreed amount for the commission was $300 total.
Experienced some major delays initially on seeing any progress, which lead to a few inquiries. I eventually settled for the idea to be changed to a one character pin-up of Lumi in a cheerleader outfit with an alt, and receiving a half refund on that. I didn't get the half refund until quite a bit later, then received a passable sketch. Asked for some minor changes, then nothing. Weeks turned into months, months approaching a near year, and no correspondence from the artist as seen in the images prior despite numerous attempts. The artist however still active and drawing despite owing me and avoiding me.
The images show the main area of communication via Discord, but I have inquired on Twitter and via email. Unfortunately for me PayPal can't do anything as it's taken longer than what protection they offer customers, so here I am.
I wanted to settle things civilly but have been outright ghosted by the artist.
Outline:
- Original agreement: on 12/23/23 I reached out to Michi on FA and was told I could send them a message on Discord. After doing that, exchanging hellos, and confirming I was interested in a YCH slot, I shared my ref and sent the payment ($45) after they sent me an invoice. After which they told me it would be a day or two before they could send me a WIP, which was fine. Sure enough, they began sending WIPs, and I was happy with the work, however, after a bit, communication began to get scarcer. I reached out for an update on FA, and they got back to me with a nearly complete version, just missing some color in places and some shading. After that, all communications dropped. I tried reaching out over FA and Discord over the months, but have gone ignored. I tried to go through PayPal to get my money back, but it was declined, as it has been more than 180 days.
Replaced old screenshots with some hopefully clearer quality screenshots of the Furaffinity messages with date and time, and an email has been sent, and so far has not been replied to. Also added the invoice
Fursuit Maker and I agreed on a commission for one fursuit head. I paid them 450$ on the date of Feb. 24 2023 via paypal. Maker specifically requested payment using the "friends and family" option, making it impossible to get a refund through paypal... they said it would be done “March-April”, or about 2 months. Payment was made in full. Maker promised to make a head mock-up day of payment, which never happened.
Maker promised the following deadlines:
DEADLINE 1: Completion March-April 2023, said on Feb 25 2023. (see above)
DEADLINE 2: Said they would begin in May 2023 (1 month after the first deadline.), said on Mar. 23 2023.
DEADLINE 3: September 2023 (7 months after first deadline), said on Aug. 10th 2023.
DEADLINE 4: would be done around Oct-November (9 months after first deadline), said on Oct. 4 2023.
DEADLINE 5: Said they would try to finish by the end of the year, December (10 months after the first deadline). Said this on Nov 13 2023.
All dates were missed. A 3D base was never designed, nor printed, thus Fur was never cut, etc. Maker saved only 3 reference images of the character despite me sending multiple, which implies they never intended to start work, as the updated photos had key design notes. As stated earlier, The maker made no concept images or 3d base designs, despite agreeing to do so on the date of payment.
Maker told me they printed the headbase of my suit on Jan. 12 2024 (11 months after the first deadline..) but never sent an image. Maker tried to resolve the issue by promising to begin work and add paws + tail to my order, but I declined the tail so it wouldn't take as long. Maker never began the paws.
I would understand if they had to halt work upon beginning my suit, I would be patient, and I have been; However they made no attempts or plans to work on my suit until Mar. 15 2024 when I had suggested I was being scammed, because I genuinely had no reason to believe I'd ever get my suit. They claimed to have printed out a base for my suit but I never saw it.
Maker offered to send a free fursuit base for the wait time; I declined, and just requested my money back.
Maker agreed to a refund on April 1 2024, with a deadline refund date of July 1 to pay (their own words.)
No money has been received. they have ignored my messages and I suspect I have been blocked by them on Telegram.
(My last message came from a complete lapse in judgement due to a build-up of frustration. I should not be so accusatory or speak in such a rude way.)
I understand that their work is good quality, but their business practices are absolutely unacceptable. If they cannot even BEGIN my suit after more than a YEAR, they should not be taking new commissions. They have been working on other suits, but have never touched mine. I understand some clients are more important than others and I would not be complaining if I had waited less than a year for only a head.
TL;DR
Commissioned Navy for a fursuit head. Maker promised and missed 5 deadlines over the span of a year and a few months. Navy told me they printed my base, but I was never shown said base. They offered to add paws to my order for my wait, which I agreed. After a year without any work, I confronted them and requested a refund. Navy promised to refund my 450$ by July 10 2024, and then never responded to me again.
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So I commissioned this artist almost a year ago. At first they where very interactive as fast to respond. But after paying ($195) they became very distant and after about a month sent me the first sketch for my commission. After discussing any changes they became even more infrequent updates and after a while became completely silent before the discord account got deleted. I figured something might have happened so I was about to chalk it up to a loss. But then a while later they started to still make posts on their inkbunny account. I dm'd them there to try and get an explanation but just got a line about them just forgetting before completely ghosting me there too. I even found another person who commissioned him and had almost the exact same experience here after paying they got a sketch after a month before being completely ghosted.
Below are screenshots of the chats (censored the commission details cuz I know not everyone is into that).
First contact was an adopt that I bid on. When I paid, the adopt was delivered. (10,40$)
I then asked if they also do commissions, which they affirmed. We agreed on a commission and I paid. (93.00$)
After a month on the 20.10.23 they contacted me with a new account, as they had lost access to their original one. I replied to that message, that I was a commissioner waiting for progress.
They never replied to that message, so I send another on the 29.11.23, which they read, but also never replied to.
I then send another message on the 16.12.23. This message was never opened.
My last message was send on the 15.01.24. I have never gotten any reply or progress. At that point I lost hope.
They have been posting new art on their account throughout all of this time, and still are posting new works.
My boosty goals:
I forgot about it for a while, but it was brought to my attention again, as another user that was ghosted by them, contacted me.
I contacted them again on the 05.08.2024 after 3 days again with no response.
I also contacted them on boosty on the 09.08.2024, until now I have also gotten no response
Full-body plantigrade fursuit commission commissioned on May 30th 2022 which until today (June 21st 2024) has not been delivered.
First contact was on Reddit as a comment to my post where I was looking to gather information on how expensive a fursuit of my fursona would be, see reddit post below
/u/Kiromu_uwu responded with prices:
I've decided to contact them via DMs on reddit.
Previous work was shown on Discord. (Note: Their TikTok account has been suspended for reasons unknown)
We discussed further details, then agreed to sign a simple contract. It entails a 50% down payment.
First payment occurred on May 30th 2022, second payment on October 4th 2022.
Fursuit updates were regular, on average once every month, enough to keep me satisfied. Progress was well communicated through Discord, even setbacks.
This was kept up until early 2024, where communication ceased, right after personal issues were mentioned and at the same time affirmed that they have recovered from said issues on April 7th. March 10th is the last time I got any proper fursuit progress updates.
April 7th was the last time they sent any message.
I kept requesting updates, having grown anxious from their mention of medical issues, attempting contact via E-Mail even. Unfortunately, I have not received any response for several months now, even though I saw their status on Discord being online playing video games.
Unfortunately, due to PayPal not accepting disputes/ claims for transactions older than 180 days, and my bank not considering chargebacks for transactions older than 13 months, I am unable to recover my funds. I left a final message on Discord, no longer believing any resolution can be reached.
Explanation and issue:
Merciful was to exchange one character named Yeshua in exchange for 3,000$ USD. It was agreed upon a payment plan of 400$ a month then changed (by myself) to 200$ every 2 weeks. Once the character was paid off there was a substantial delay in transferring the character with multiple excuses. The character was still actively up for sale during this time and a user had inquired about their sale, which Merciful then attempted to resell to them.
A ToyHou.se admin then had to transfer the character over to me (with proof of purchase). They were informed that they could appeal the transfer with substantial proof that the character was not resold, or a chargeback was filed.
Merciful then remade the character and asked the original creator of the design to add their creator credits to the profile. I was informed of the the recreation and put in a ticket to have the character removed. It was removed by a TH admin.
Merciful has claimed she has been hacked and never actually resold the character. She stated it was sold by her ex's fiancé as an act of revenge. However the correspondences between her and another user don't seem to match this claim. There are substantial conflicting details between what I was told and what another user was told. this information is private and has been provided to the AB staff.
Agreement:
The original agreement was made over furaffinity (Littlychibiteddybear). I had commented and then PMed her. She wished to take the conversation to Discord for ease of contact (sinned_raven).
Proof of payment:
*Please note there are cancelations of an invoice; noted by the strikethrough of 1800, and 200 on may 8th and may 3rd respectively. These were not paid by me as they were canceled prior to payment. They were meant to be payoff points on my part, and I had to push payment back. (See below reference)
Our interaction relating to payment delays.
Start of the issue:
-My confirmation to her that payment was complete and her confirmation that she received it and would send Yeshua over when she could.
-A delay in transferring the character to me. I had asked a few times, of which she had said she was busy and could not transfer the character.
-My reaching out to the user that she attempted to resell the character to
-My exchanges with a TH admin forcing the transfer
-The creator of the character reaching out to me about the recreation of the character
-My exchange with the TH admin about the removal of the recreated character.
Other relevant correspondence:
-Our discord conversations over the length of the transaction. This detailed various instances in which she would send me invoices to pay and idle conversation (redacted).
-A confirmation that LittleChibiTeddyBear is her alt sales account
Our current conversation regarding the issues, and her claiming she was hacked.
For transparency. I opened disputes with paypal. I am no longer comfortable owning this character and I will be returning it. I am unable to tell if she was actually hacked and her claims are true. It's weird to me how she just switches from not being okay with it to being okay with it after I threaten disputes and legal action. It's always weird to me that she's being allowed to use her "hackers" paypal and is in constant contact with her. I can't keep my personal opinions out of that matter. I consider this character "stolen goods" and I will not keep her and do not consider her to be owned by myself as it is illegal to own stolen goods.
Final update and outcome:
I received a full refund of every transaction listed for a total of 3,000$. As the case as a whole was multiple transactions and they were all refunded under an umbrella "case".
The character was returned to Merciful.
I DMed StormSoulSeeker from the Art Fight Discord server on March 5th, 2024. I found them via the #art-trades channel, where users advertise their open art commissions. We agreed to do an art commission. I finished my piece on the same day, and the last time I heard from them was March 7th 2024. I reached out to them on Discord several times (most recently June 13th 2024), along with Toyhouse and Art Fight. While I cannot know whether they have been on Discord since March 7th, Toyhouse and Art Fight data shows that they've been online since my attempts at communication, with 0 response.
Screenshots of original agreement (Discord):
At several points between the above reminder messages, I messaged them on Toyhouse and Art Fight.
Toyhouse screenshots:
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Toyhouse stats showing last time logged in as of June 16, 2024:
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Art Fight Profile Comment:
Art Fight stats as of June 16, 2024:
As a side note, I reported this to a mod from the Art Fight Discord (where the art trade was initiated):
An attempt to contact the artist on ArtFight was made, but despite being active on the site as of June 30th, she has not responded. She also deleted the shout made on her page.
She had sorted herself into a team indicating intention to participate in ArtFight for July of 2024