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https://artists-beware.livejournal.com/971939.html WHO: Gideon furaffinity.net/user/gideon twitter.com/gideonscorral gideonscorral.com (gated) WHERE: Initially email, later Telegram. WHAT: Digital artpiece (single character, full color) for $100 WHEN: Early May 2017 up to current. EXPLAIN: Mid April 2017: I contacted Gideon by email after he advertised digital versions of his art CDs on his twitter account. He was quick to reply and send the links after I paid through Paypal. May 1 2017: I was rather fond of one design in particular and I asked him if he took commissions. He agreed for a $100 single character piece. Seeing as he was quite responsive in his previous emails, that he's been active in the fandom since the early 2000s and the fact that I've seen his commissioned work occasionally on FA, I figured he would have plenty of experience in that regard and that getting a commission from him would be a safe bet. Though, at the time, I wasn't aware of this very site. So I pitched my idea to him and he expressed a similar fondness towards it, even noting that he could "easily do that". (I'm not sure why the font of this message is so small, but it's still legible.) I paid through Paypal and notified him, assuming he would send me a sketch within the next few weeks. (Email conversation, read from bottom to top. Partially redacted for NSFW content.) https://i.imgur.com/2FXOWQo.png Proof of payment: https://i.imgur.com/faywzgk.png "You have transferred 100 USD to" May 25 2017: Gideon didn't get back to me nor replied to another email I sent him, so I tried to contact him through a comment on his paysite, which I was already subscribed to anyway. He contacted me again through another email account, so I suppose he had forgotten about our initial email exchange. I inquired about the commission status after which he told me had to slow down (he had some health issues at the time) and that he would write me another email the next day (though that didn't happen). https://i.imgur.com/7xRb5RR.png June 9 2017: I inquired about another update as he hadn't contacted me at this point. He apologized, said he would get to the commission that week and suggested to use Telegram to keep contact. (Portion of reply redacted for privacy reasons.) https://i.imgur.com/tWRBVn0.png June 18 2017: After trying to contact him several times through Telegram he said that "life got a bit hectic" and that he had "a few guests over". I didn't want to come off as pushy so I let it be for a few weeks. https://i.imgur.com/ysSRgvi.png July 25 2017: Once again, I hadn't heard anything from him and as he didn't reply to the Telegram messages I contacted him be email again and I stated my displeasure at the delays and the lack of communication. He apologized again and said that he would normally only take payment after a sketch is shown. Also that he would give a sketch the following weekend. https://i.imgur.com/8TgYPZd.png https://i.imgur.com/7sWkBhF.png August 14 2017: Multiple weekends had passed since that message and I had received nothing at that point. I contacted him again, he apologized and said he'd send me a sketch that same night (I think you'll start to see the pattern here), while also asking if I could send the reference/specifics again as well as other details. That struck me as rather odd, because if one takes commissions isn't noting down the references the first thing you'd do ? https://i.imgur.com/JhFO7Rz.png https://i.imgur.com/FpYE5GS.png September 12 2017: At this point I was rather annoyed with the endeavour this whole situation had become as I had tried to contact him through email and Telegram, multiple times even, with no replies whatsoever. https://i.imgur.com/I7iX8Vw.png He was still quite active on Twitter throughout all of this however. It was only when I threatened to make this public and take legal action that he got back to me. He said I would see the sketch next weekend - it was tuesday then - while, for some reason, also going on about something unrelated to the commission. https://i.imgur.com/jFI8p85.png September 24 2017: The weekend had passed and I'd still seen nothing. My latest message to him is still marked as unread even though his status is "Last seen recently", which according to Telegrams FAQ means having logged in within the last 3 days. All in all, from a customer point of view I find this entire situation to be unacceptable. As I stated to him as well, I'd have no qualms with some delays on their own as long as you stay in contact and keep me updated. But when there is a consistent pattern with excuses and empty promises, as well as an overall lack of communication I'm rather skeptical on whether I'll ever see that sketch, let alone a finished piece.
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This is my first time using a site like this, I have done my best to censor out any sensitive topics or personal information I couldn't find publicly available (i.e. PayPal email, personal email, etc.) On June 10th, 2021, I commissioned Gideon for $200 for a pic of my character I had adopted from him a few months earlier. (This adopt cost $800, which was delivered to me successfully.) After having sent the payment over, I would attempt to contact him over the next few days with no answer. I would eventually hear from him the next month on July 13th. After some casual chatting that day, I would give him some more time to work without asking about it, messaging him the next month. (Note: This screenshot was taken later, the original had failed to save.) Some chatting in-between, I would ask him again about the commission. After this, it would be a span of almost an entire year before I would hear from him again. In-between my messages to him on Discord, I would attempt to contact him on FA again. This would go unread. (Note: I was not able to get the date to show up while using the Snip tool. This note was sent on November 12th, 2021.) On June 4th, 2022, I would voice my frustrations with the lack of communication between us. From here my interactions with Gideon would become much less polite. While I admit it might've been rude of me to respond to him in such a way, I had commissioned him for $200 right after auto-buying his adopt for $800, and had had mostly radio silence since then. (Note: Gideon cited medical and personal issues for the reason the commission was further delayed. While he has brought up the medical issues in some of his Patreon posts, I have censored them here just in case.) From here, I accepted his apology and continued to wait. At this time, I also asked him about another piece on his FA that looked similar to my adopt. (Note: I asked about multiple pieces: This one, and a second which he later explained was a different adopt.) I would not hear back from him for more than 3 months, with my patience once again waning. On September 30th, 2022, I would offer him an ultimatum stating my intentions if he didn't respond back. Seeing as trying to contact him via Discord seemed unreliable, I would write out my message and send it to his other accounts to make sure he saw it. (Note: The Snip tool wouldn't pick up the timestamp for the FA note, so I had to take a picture of it with my phone.) Gideon would respond shortly after on Discord, as well as addressing my question about the other piece I had asked about 3 months prior. He would confirm that the piece would be included with the adoption of the character. After some more discussion about another piece I asked him about (which he explained was a different adopt entirely), I asked when the WIP for my commission and the high-res for the additional piece would be ready. About a week later, neither of these would be delivered. A few days later, seeing as the commission had not yet even been started, I decided to change my idea for it. Another month would go by without any answer from Gideon. On November 16th, 2022, I would offer my ultimatum once again. Gideon would answer almost 2 weeks later, setting a deadline for himself for December 17th to get something to me. Finally, on December 16th, the day before this deadline, he would message me stating he wouldn't be able to meet it, citing a personal issue. The commission would be further delayed to the end of the month. After this, I'd decide enough was enough and make this post. So yeah, that's where I am currently. $200 in the hole, 2 pieces owed to me, over a year of shaky communication and radio silence, and absolutely nothing to show for it. Like I mentioned in a previous screencap, I would request a refund, but it's far too late for PayPal to get involved and I honestly don't trust Gideon to deliver even on that. I should note that with my constant asking about my commission, I wasn't ever expecting it to be done quickly. I just wanted some confirmation that it was being worked on or that it was on the to-do list, but he couldn't even give me that response. After this long span of constant ghosting I decided that this should be known. Thank you.
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I paid Gideon Hoss nearly $60 to draw my character at anthrocon 2014. I was unable to retrieve it at the time. I have sent him numerous emails over the years asking about it. Ive seen him at other anthrocons and he still didn't have it on him, but he did finish it.
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Dec. 11th, 2011 at 5:43 PM ext_927176 WHO: Gideon, AKA Gideon Hoss.WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/gideon/WHAT: I had messaged and paid for a simple digital piece of a character of mine, sitting back to viewer, looking behind all cute like. The art had been paid for via paypal already.WHEN: The order was sent and paid for on august 8th of 2010. I messaged him on July 9th about the comissions, and he assured me it was due to con scheduling and the various online projects he was working on. After multiple contacts and it being almost two years later without a sketch or a word, I'm beyond fed up.PROOF: Paypal transaction, with personal info and transaction ID blacked: http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy228/bentokitty/gideon/Screenshotat2011-12-11171548.png message-by-message account of the request: http://s794.photobucket.com/albums/yy228/bentokitty/gideon/ORIGIONAL_REQUEST/ Conversatons with since, including re-submitting request via email and paypal transaction: http://s794.photobucket.com/albums/yy228/bentokitty/gideon/ EXPLAIN: I have attempted to contact Gideon multiple times via Furaffinity, and via the various IM clients he has given me (which he has not been on since giving said screennames to me). I have not had any contact with him since, no sketch, no progress, nothing. I just want the art I paid for, please. I'm dissapointed that it came to this, and took two dang years. UPDATE: As of 12.27.11, I have attempted to contact Gideon on FA, as per his request here. This report was the last contact between him and I. Come on, really? Mood updated from annoyed to PO'd.
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