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  • Caution: G.hosting

    jollygrave

    By jollygrave

      • Who: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/g.hosting
      Where: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/g.hosting, https://www.instagram.com/sinscitys/
      When: 07/14/2020
      What: Commission



    Eden
    Message added by Eden,

    The final image shows the same skill level as the artist's other work, but the level of detail is up for debate.  We leave it to the readers to formulate their own opinions on the issue of quality

    Back in July, I ordered a sketchy custom for $75 (USD) from g.hosting (not realizing the username would be very apt!) Here's the link to the auction: https://www.furaffinity.net/view/37221256/. I've attached a screenshot showing my initial win as well as the paypal transaction.

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    Unfortunately, I nuked all of my Furaffinity notes, but Ghosting and I went to Discord for awhile. I have some screencaps of that. The "we" I'm referring to is my now-deceased fiance.

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    As I understand that art can take time to complete and the year has been completely insane, I decided to be patient. Not to mention I had to deal with my fiance's passing in August. You can see in the screenshots that months went by. In the meantime, Ghosting was semi-active on their FA and more active on their Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sinscitys/.

    On November 6, I expressed concern for Ghosting's health as well as how long the commission was taking. I've been ripped off for almost $300 this year, and between Ghosting's active posting and lack of progress, I was afraid that I was dealing with yet another "push things past the dispute window and then disappear forever" artist. It became one of those awful situations where you don't want to yank money out of someone's pocket, but you also can't be a doormat.

    You'll also notice that Ghosting offered me a refund, which I preferred, but suddenly they weren't able to provide one.
    Now knowing that Ghosting was more active on Insta and FA, I sent messages to each, which went unread for two days.

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    At this point, I was fed up. I opened a dispute and escalated it. You can see in the Paypal screenshot that there was an active dispute associated with that transaction.

    A few hours later, I received this: https://sta.sh/02dmz8wjlaf5

    And responses to my FA note and IG message. The FA note was just to let me know the IG note was responded to, so I am only including the IG screenshot.

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    The custom's quality is lower than many of Ghosting's other designs. But after some consideration, I decided I did like what I received for the most part and closed the dispute. Juice just needs sprucing up and a clearer ref sheet.

    Ghosting has offered to draw a little extra art as an apology, but based on my experience overall, I'll consider any extras like a scratch ticket win.

    In summary? Ghosting's designs have a definite charm to them. They are generally colorful and lively. If you like them and can get your hands on a premade, I wholly suggest it! Ghosting as a person seems to be very friendly. But until this artist can communicate and work more effectively, I would hesitate to commission them.

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    bunartist

    Sorry, but I think youre more in the wrong here. this artist is a 15 year old, for starters- which of course doesnt exempt them from receiving a beware, but i am naturally more hesitant of judgement. 

    i do not see how this artist ghosted you, they took awhile to reply- yes, but in these screenshots it shows that you were contacted semi regularly atleast, it doesnt help that you left them with a completed sketch concept for a month for you to turn to them and say you dont want it anymore and you want a refund, and they can just resell it themselves, that is very unfair on the artist especially since theyd already done custom work for you.

    i dont take issue with you filing a dispute, especially because of the wait, but i think youre projecting your frustrations of being scammed onto this 15 year old child.

    looking through their instagram, their art appears to be the same quality as the custom and i personally feel like youre being overcritical because youre upset with this kid.

    i think its honestly really kind that they offered to create you more art for free, they dont owe you that, if its something you want there id be grateful.

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    Eden
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    5 minutes ago, bunartist said:

    Sorry, but I think youre more in the wrong here. this artist is a 15 year old, for starters- which of course doesnt exempt them from receiving a beware, but i am naturally more hesitant of judgement. 

    i do not see how this artist ghosted you, they took awhile to reply- yes, but in these screenshots it shows that you were contacted semi regularly atleast, it doesnt help that you left them with a completed sketch concept for a month for you to turn to them and say you dont want it anymore and you want a refund, and they can just resell it themselves, that is very unfair on the artist especially since theyd already done custom work for you.

    i dont take issue with you filing a dispute, especially because of the wait, but i think youre projecting your frustrations of being scammed onto this 15 year old child.

    looking through their instagram, their art appears to be the same quality as the custom and i personally feel like youre being overcritical because youre upset with this kid.

    i think its honestly really kind that they offered to create you more art for free, they dont owe you that, if its something you want there id be grateful.

    Your comment is fine, I just want to point out that this is not a beware. A Caution post should never be taken as the same weight as a beware.

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    On 12/8/2020 at 9:39 AM, bunartist said:

    Sorry, but I think youre more in the wrong here. this artist is a 15 year old, for starters- which of course doesnt exempt them from receiving a beware, but i am naturally more hesitant of judgement. 

    i do not see how this artist ghosted you, they took awhile to reply- yes, but in these screenshots it shows that you were contacted semi regularly atleast, it doesnt help that you left them with a completed sketch concept for a month for you to turn to them and say you dont want it anymore and you want a refund, and they can just resell it themselves, that is very unfair on the artist especially since theyd already done custom work for you.

    i dont take issue with you filing a dispute, especially because of the wait, but i think youre projecting your frustrations of being scammed onto this 15 year old child.

    looking through their instagram, their art appears to be the same quality as the custom and i personally feel like youre being overcritical because youre upset with this kid.

    i think its honestly really kind that they offered to create you more art for free, they dont owe you that, if its something you want there id be grateful.

    Actually i can see why this is a caution considering the communication issues and the artist who is 15. really shouldn't be doing them at all which is a huge risk in itself.

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    On 12/8/2020 at 7:39 AM, bunartist said:

    Sorry, but I think youre more in the wrong here. this artist is a 15 year old, for starters- which of course doesnt exempt them from receiving a beware, but i am naturally more hesitant of judgement. 

    i do not see how this artist ghosted you, they took awhile to reply- yes, but in these screenshots it shows that you were contacted semi regularly atleast, it doesnt help that you left them with a completed sketch concept for a month for you to turn to them and say you dont want it anymore and you want a refund, and they can just resell it themselves, that is very unfair on the artist especially since theyd already done custom work for you.

    i dont take issue with you filing a dispute, especially because of the wait, but i think youre projecting your frustrations of being scammed onto this 15 year old child.

    looking through their instagram, their art appears to be the same quality as the custom and i personally feel like youre being overcritical because youre upset with this kid.

    i think its honestly really kind that they offered to create you more art for free, they dont owe you that, if its something you want there id be grateful.

    While I agree that I think the OP is off-base about the quality as the quality looks about the same to me, I disagree with your other points. First, I'm going to point out to you that on their FA page the artist claims they're 19, that means they are lying about their age and that alone is misleading and deceptive to potential clients and all the more reason why no one should do business with this person. (for the next 3 years)

    Minors cannot be legally upheld to any contract (which, might I remind, all commissions are a type of contract) they make without a guardian to sign it with them. That means that they can just decide to not participate in a contract and they cannot be legally be held accountable. In this case they could drop literally all their commissions and decide to just not do them, and there'd be no recourse for the clients because minors cannot be held to a contract. 3 years down the line? sure. That way they can actually be held legally accountable for the contracts they enter. But until that point? Absolutely not.

    Don't Do Business With Minors

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