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  • Beware: EpicMynd


    SukiHopps
    • Who: EpicMynd#1235
      Where: Discord: EpicMynd#1235
      https://twitter.com/epicmynd?lang=en
      When: 09/18/2019
      What: Commission
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    I've met through this client through discord server as I've noticed that he was looking for animators and decided to work with him. Everything was going great as the client was providing me with references and etc. The commission was a walking bouncy boob cycle and the second option was my choice which was the shaking butt animation... What I didn't know and it was something that he told me last minute after putting all of details and working on the second animation was that he wanted it as a sequence all together which I've declined because that was over the budget limit that we agreed on. 

    Until the client kept demanding for me to work on their project which I've declined till they paid me amount I've asked (which is half upfront and the other for when the project was completed) for which eventually the client did cover the first half of the payment.

    During the process the client demanding as they kept asking for constant changes to the project which wasn't the part that made this person a bad client in my view. But the client requesting changes to where there's no end result.

    Also, I've placed an hold on the client's project in order to work on a different project for a bit before going back to this one since I've had another commission to work on at the time before resuming the animation project. During the process he kept asking for animators including from me which I've gave him the name of another artist who was my business and romantic partner so that the client could chat with him. Everything was fine until I've noticed that the client was using my partner to replace me for a project the person already paid for and I was already in the process of working on (without consulting with me first).

    Then things went downhill when the project was completed and all of a sudden the client couldn't afford it, so I had to cancel the project.

    Before the fall out, this person was using their personal issues to gain sympathy from others. This client is still seeking artists to commission while advertising their condition and not having the funding to pay artists!

     

    Beginning of commission:

    Screenshot_20200109-205531_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-205636_Discord.jpg

    Screenshot_20200109-205713_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-205850_Discord.jpg

    Screenshot_20200109-205957_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-210004_Discord.jpg

    Screenshot_20200109-210012_Discord.jpg

    Changes:

    Screenshot_20200109-210155_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-210200_Discord.jpg

    Asking to work on comm 3 days later:

    Screenshot_20200109-210243_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-210303_Discord.jpg

    Looking for other animators:

    Screenshot_20200109-210318_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-210326_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-210336_Discord.jpg

    Screenshot_20200109-210340_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-210348_Discord.jpg

    Screenshot_20200109-210402_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-210410_Discord.jpg

    Screenshot_20200109-210425_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-210457_Discord.jpg

    Screenshot_20200109-210512_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-210532_Discord.jpg

    Screenshot_20200109-210548_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-211536_Discord.jpg

    Screenshot_20200109-211619_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200109-211717_Discord.jpg

    Request for donations in DMs:

    Screenshot_20200120-162405_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200120-155750_Discord.jpg

    Unable to send final payment.

    Screenshot_20200121-202031_Discord.jpgScreenshot_20200110-133159_Discord.jpg

    Proof of first payment:

    image.thumb.png.95f5a5af47fd66371e13267d8ca38305.png

    Edited by Celestina
    fixed cap formatting, added info the artist provided to us, clearly labeled.




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    Sorry about all the edits.  I had to try and break up the caps for readability and insert clarification we got from OP in PM.

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    On 1/28/2020 at 9:47 AM, SukiHopps said:

    Ugh another person from the gaming community... They really give us gamers a bad rep dude =.=

    That what i was suspecting the moment i searched his name up and saw the same icon as his twitch page. 

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    Ohhhh thank you for this post! This saves me a lot of struggles. Finding this clearifies why this client is acting weird and is difficult to talk to about payment and stuff.

    Gladly I only did a storyboard so far... They basically asked for the same commission as in your post...

     gonna cancel on him. That's to risky for me

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    My animation collab partner and I worked with this client in June 2018- May 2019 for a similar animation and it was an awful experience.

    They were constantly (even before paying) wanting to change the scope of the project to something more than the stated price range, and after they paid, for more than what was paid for. They wanted work before payment (we refused), they kept contacting me on my day off (after being told multiple times not to), sending us reference materials unrelated to the project in order to try and get us to do extra work, trying to get us to take on more projects at once than we were comfortable with, and complaining about being charged extra once they used up their free edits (as outlined in the TOS they agreed to). They even asked me for reviews AFTER they paid me, so I contacted my other clients and a few of them let me send their emails to this client. They were constantly asking for updates and changing their mind about things despite regular WIP being sent, and asked for a refund multiple times before immediately changing their mind.

    They also asked me to refer them to an animator who could edit someone else's art, which I informed them was illegal and which I found incredibly concerning.

    They originally paid 500USD split between me and my collab partner, which we finally refunded 200USD of after they asked for a refund two days after I posted the first WIP update for the colouring, and giving them the file for the animated lineart.

    I believe at that point I had actually had a caution post typed up and ready to post myself, but after they agreed to the refund I decided it was resolved so I shouldn't bother. I'm sorry... if I had done so maybe you wouldn't have worked with them.

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