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  • Beware: KidRhinoBoy/Chirros


    SleepyShepherd
    • Who: KidRhinoBoy, Chirros
      Where: https://twitter.com/kidrhinoboy
      When: 04/26/2021
      What: Commission
      NSFW Content Resolved

    In April 2021, KidRhinoBoy opened for commissions. A friend of mine and I decided we would get a commission from him. I messaged him on Twitter (seen below) about availability and pricing. We exchanged a few messages regarding prices and what exactly my friend and I would get. We chose to get a single, colored picture from him. Each of us paid $80 to KidRhinoBoy. (I do not have a receipt for my friend but I do have mine). Initially it was going to be a three person picture, but the third person dropped out due to financial reasons. Figures 1-14

    PayPal Receipt on my end shown in Figure 15

    In late October 2021 I messaged KidRhinoBoy again, discussing a change to the drawing. I thought this would be alright since he hadn't started the drawing yet. Figures 16-17

    It should be noted that at this point, KidRhinoBoy had opened and accepted a new round of comissions in late December 2021 / early January 2022. At this point I was starting to think that perhaps my commission had been forgotten about, hence my message about two weeks after he closed. Around this time I also told a friend what was going on. This friend had KidRhinoBoy's Telegram information and relayed what I had said to him. KidRhinoBoy then reached out to me on January 14th. He told me at this time that the sketch would be started some time in the next week or two (Last two weeks of January 2022) Figures 18-20


    I would also occasionally reach out to him about his art, not looking for any updates, but just because I thought what he was putting out looked good. In April he messaged me again asking about my commission. He said he would sketch it soon. (It was not made clear to me what soon meant in this case, however) Figures 21-22

    In June I reached out again asking to see if there was any update from his end. This time he said he would get me a sketch the next day. Three days after he asks me about the idea again. (To be clear, I did not delete or make invisible any of my messages in Telegram, so I was a little confused why he was asking again)  Figure 23

    I sent him a reply a little over 4 hours later, but at the time of writing it does not appear that he has read my messages.  Figures 24-25

    In hindsight it probably wasn't a great idea to change the art idea when I did. I know he also runs his own restaurant/cafe and suits a lot where he lives, so he's certainly busy. I understand that no one can do all things all at once. I'm not sure what to think about the various times I was promised a sketch, perhaps he's tried and wasn't happy with the results, but I genuinely don't know. Figures 26-27 

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    I sent him a reply a little over 4 hours later, but at the time of writing it does not appear that he has read my messages.
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    That is some poor communication especially since you waited patiently for about a year I'm sure your past the protection period.

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    We understand that RhinoBoy and some of his fans may be acting out on Twitter at the moment and that the subject of this beware himself is asking for understanding:

    But how can OP give any more understanding when it's been over a year; April 2021-October 2021 there is nothing

    January 2022 a promise of a sketch 

    April 2022 ... a promise of a sketch

    June 2022 another promise 

    And... nothing.

    Regardless of his schedule if he knows he's busy running his con and other businesses; he should refund and not leave people hanging if he can't communicate directly to clients rather than tweet he's sorry.

    Even now his immediate QRT from the AV Twitter is asking for more patience than he deserves... I hope he realizes that in the end: this beware is not being "a Karen" (talk about watering down a term) this beware is asking for accountability and anyone who tells Rhino it's OKAY is no better enabling bad behavior.

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    1 hour ago, RTKobold said:

    That is some poor communication especially since you waited patiently for about a year I'm sure your past the protection period.

    That is correct. In hindsight, I could have done more to try and either get my money back, especially because this was not just my money. At the time I thought it was simply a matter of doing colored commissions last or something of the sort. 

    It's an important lesson learned, and hopefully something both the artist and I will move on from in time.

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    In the future I wish artists would let their clients know they'd be busy instead of promising work, then posting photos at cons and expecting the client to just, know they'll be strung along for over a year because of it.

     

    What irks me is the promise of work then never doing it. I'm not sure why so many artists have trouble just admitting they can't work at the moment and just promise something they know they can't deliver 

     

    Hopefully going forward the artist learns from these mistakes.

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    Hello all, 

    I have good news. The artist did reach out to me and apologized. We managed to figure out the issue and the art has since been completed. KRB also did an additional piece of art that neither my friend nor I asked for or paid for. He said he did it because he felt bad about the situation. He also offered me a refund after completing both artworks, but I turned it down because I did not want to feel that I had taken advantage of him in any way. 

    Thankfully my friend hasn't been dragged into the unpleasantness that happened at first either, so I'm glad about that too. 

    For general clarification, this was not a fun process for me. I hate being "That Guy" and calling someone out. I'm just glad it's all over and both the artist and I can move on from this. 

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    46 minutes ago, SleepyShepherd said:

    Hello all, 

    I have good news. The artist did reach out to me and apologized. We managed to figure out the issue and the art has since been completed. KRB also did an additional piece of art that neither my friend nor I asked for or paid for. He said he did it because he felt bad about the situation. He also offered me a refund after completing both artworks, but I turned it down because I did not want to feel that I had taken advantage of him in any way. 

    Thankfully my friend hasn't been dragged into the unpleasantness that happened at first either, so I'm glad about that too. 

    For general clarification, this was not a fun process for me. I hate being "That Guy" and calling someone out. I'm just glad it's all over and both the artist and I can move on from this. 

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    Good to hear!  We've marked this as resolved!

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