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  • Beware: MalyTwoTails / Con*Tact Caffeine


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    • Who: MalyTwoTails aka Con*Tact Caffeine
      Where: https://www.patreon.com/maly / https://twitter.com/malytwotails and by proxy https://twitter.com/contactcaffeine / https://contactcaffeine.bigcartel.com/
      When: 05/03/2019
      What: Other (Explain Below)



    As for the "What": Several month's worth of physical Patreon rewards. I marked the "When" as when she stopped providing what I was paying for.


    As I recall, the Con*Tact company is run by two people, but Maly is the most particularly active/public and does a lot of sales under the name, as well as tie her Patreon to the company, so I felt that was relevant to connect. 


    I had been supporting Maly's Patreon since October 2017 under the most basic receive physical reward tier.

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    For the next few years, she posted updates and sent out rewards just fine -- she was super kind, she always replied to messages, and I had no issues. It wasn't until months ago she stopped posting updates, as well as sending out the promised rewards.


     

    (Notice the most "recent" update was from June, 10th 2019.)

    I had gotten so used to getting the packages in the mail without an issue that I didn't really notice I wasn't getting them, but checking my records confirms that the last reward she'd ever sent me was in April of last year. 
    Yet the whole time, she continued to charge for rewards, as if everything was carrying on normally.

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    (Whenever Maly would mail out Patreon rewards, she'd send out a Paypal email like any of her normal Con*Tact orders including the tracking, my last one was from April, 3rd 2019.)


    Upon realizing this, I tried to send her a Patreon message to ask about it, which was met with no response. I checked her twitter, noticing she was frequently active on it, and tried to DM her. The first message was ignored, but the second time, I got a response. She herself confirms she had not been sending out rewards, and promised to send out large packages to make up for everything she's missed. I'm a fairly understanding and patient person, and I'm happy she finally addresses the issue and promise to try to better things. I give her time, and wait it out to see if I get anything.

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    Time passes, and nothing comes. I don't get the rewards I was promised, and I also never get any sort of verbal follow-up. I try to poke her again... and again... and again. And am met by being ignored and left on read each time. Trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and ample time to get things together, I finally caved and gave an ultimatum after finally withdrawing my Patreon pledge. Perhaps something I should have done far earlier, my mistake.

     

    (This was the last time I had money taken from me. Though I will note that she did NOT charge for one month back in January, which had made me believe she was being genuine about wanting to make things right. She however went back to charging the month right after.)

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    As far as I'm aware, you cannot dispute undelivered Patreon rewards/updates -- and I'd honestly rather not get a refund. I've been a huge fan of Con*Tact and their products for years, and more than anything I want this solved so I can go back to supporting them. But with this refusal to even speak to me, I'm at a loss for what to do.

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    I’m also someone who has been waiting for her Patreon rewards that I’ve, at this point, written off as never getting. It’s a shame because Maly seemed amazing at getting soap and work to everyone up until around April 2019 (during that time she missed two months but did do a double shipment to make up for it, which is why I held on for a few months believing she would do the same this time) I just wish we had some kind of explanation  or anything other than complete radio silence as we kept getting charged month after month. I deleted my pledge in early November but I’m still out 4 months of backlogged soap.

    I was so happy to see her making some progress on the backlog soaps  via twitter:

     but nothing ever came from it and her last post on it was November. She apparently had everything packaged and bundled for patrons 

     but never put them in the mail (As per your DM reply in December). If she did eventually do so, I never received one and don’t know anyone who has. This whole situation has saddened and disappointed me. I can imagine owing so much backlog is incredibly stressful but the silence is horrible. I don’t know what else can be done since I don’t believe I can charge back my money, and reporting to Patreon doesn’t result in anything. I really hope she comes around and at least makes a post of some kind addressing this. 

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    I used to be a Patron in March of 2019. Got the April package you mentioned and never got anything after. Dropped it after a two or so months when I felt like I wouldn't get anything out of it.

    I have seen store orders go out on Telegram and she does pop up to advertise on Telegram but it seems like her Patrons aren't a priority.

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