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  • Beware: Leone LaTwerk

    Koroner

    By Koroner

      • Who: Leone LaTwerk
      Where: Furry Amino: https://bit.ly/30xTzYI
      Twitter: https://twitter.com/LeoneLaTwerk
      When: 07/25/2018
      What: Commission

      Resolved

    On July 24th 2018, I messaged Leone on Furry Amino asking if he had anymore slots left since he's an artist that I've commissioned several times before with no issue. So, I assumed that there would be no problems this time either and that all should go well, and I decided on a $57 half-body commission. An invoice was sent to me the next day (25th) and paid in full. 

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    I followed up with another message on August 10th asking if the commission could be changed to a different character if he hadn't started on it yet, which was OK'd and I provided a reference for the new character I wanted it to be of. Some messages are left out due to irrelevancy, since we were on friendly terms and would chit-chat about things unrelated to my commission in-between things. A character name is also censored due to them (the character) no longer belonging to or being associated with me.

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    This is where the gaps in communication began. I didn't hear from him again until a month later (September 18th) but was aware of IRL issues that he had been experiencing at the time, so I didn't mind being patient and waiting as long as he needed. After September 18th, I didn't hear from him again until October 2nd and apologized in case a username change on my end had caused any confusion. He stated having more issues, so I didn't want to cause him any additional stress and was content to continue waiting. 

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    After October, I didn't hear from him again until November 9 and was made aware of a post that pertained to his IRL happenings and why the delays were happening. So, again, I was content to wait as long as needed and didn't hear from him again until January of this year when I was the one to reach out and message him on the 4th & 7th. I was becoming less active on Amino at this current time, so our conversation switched over to Twitter DMs after this point. I was told that my commission had been completed and that the file had simply been misplaced, although I never received or saw any WIPs of it prior to this whereas I had been sent WIPs every other time I've commissioned him. I tried to remain as understanding as possible and politely asked for a refund.

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    After speaking with him on January 7th & 8th, I then heard from him on the 15th and was given a partial refund since he stated being unable to deliver the finished commission to me due to problems with his computer. Was also told that he was having issues with misplacing completed commissions in general. I was happy to receive an update and partial refund of my commission, but then another large gap ensued where there was no further communication from him until March. After March, I didn't hear from him until three months later (this past) June when I was the one to message him asking for another update.

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    I mentioned that I wouldn't mind commissioning him again sometime regardless of the issues concerning this particular transaction, since I do love his work and had always had pleasant experiences working with him prior to this. Details were discussed, and I decided that I would be fine with a newer character of mine being drawn rather than receiving the remainder of my refund. 

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    I was updated on June 19th and told that he would be beginning work on it and also saw that he had simultaneously posted an opening for more slots on Amino. I was more hopeful that my commission would be completed this time considering that I did receive a sketch, but this hasn't been the case seeing as he's completed everyone else's commissions for the batch he just took mid-June excluding mine, which is something that I've been waiting on for almost a year now. I've received no further updates since July 8th and am somewhat frustrated with this and feel guilty about pressing for more updates, because I'm a very quiet and anxious person.

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    I still have yet to receive the finished commission or any updated WIPs beyond the sketch. 

     

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    Koroner

    Leone messaged me on Friday (the 19th) with an update on my commission, but the colors for my character are off. I pointed this out and was told that it's an issue he's having with things not displaying correctly, so I'm waiting on another update now as he tries to correct it. 

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    Here's the character's ref sheet for comparison:

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    LeoneLaTwerk

    Hello. Thank you for writing this...

    I am so sorry. It has been a fairly long time since I have last spoken, but I did not expect you to after reading . During the time indicated here I had been going through a transitionary period with moving alone out of state with other troubles that made it hard to focus or remember what I did or did not do. I had assumed that I had already given your correction since you were already removed from my queue when I started being organized so I proceeded with the others down the list because you were checked somehow.

    I try hard to make sure things are right and I always(at the time) thought I can get out of a situation at a certain time only to be let down because I under estimated my situation as a whole or overestimated my ability to keep up. I was in such a hurry to move away from my failing situation(and I wish I could say more) and I had to make all that money by myself. My inability to organize is what caused most of this. I would have seen  that it was not submitted and since I had not heard I assumed that our business was concluded around a month or 2 after your update post here. That is why I moved on to the next queue. I was not meaning to leave you hanging that way. Initially It was supposed to be a stormy cast so the tones had a reddish hue from the sky. All I had to do was take off the overlay on it, so I did and set it off to the side hoping to submit it same day. I did not purposely forget nor did I want to "not" submit the work. It does not make sense for me to not get the work done when my rep depended on it because I believe the more examples I have , more proof I could do set species for example. I have worked with you before and I feel like utter crap for not making due with what was promised.  I still have the file in my portfolio but even so I want to fix this.

    I did not intend to have people break their trust with me and usually I did fine prior(and after 2019) I now have a built system dedicated to actual work with Display Cal as my screen calibrator. Currently I am doing Telehealth screenings due to covid to manage my mental status to improve and regain my work ethic in the past few months due to being unable to work during surgery next month. I just slow down in the mean time because I am in a way better position.

    I want to set things right just as I had done with the other  queue slots that suffered from my irl issues and do another piece for you with this system with you present as I do it.  I was not made aware of this until just now. I took too many and went too fast jumping over some(although some changed their names on amino so I could no longer find them or I was scammed into doing the work without pay, making me have to take more to make up after having to quit my job at the time to leave. It was too much to handle at the time but given the urgency of the situation I did not think to confirm or slow down to see people not receiving their work. 

    I apologise deeply. I never meant for any of this to happen. If I am able to make things work I really want to. You were wonderful to work with and I screwed up way more than I would like.  I just do not want this to stain everything because I want to get better. It has but in this case I never knew this is what has been festering. Again, I am sorry. Please forgive me. 

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    2 minutes ago, LeoneLaTwerk said:

    Hello. Thank you for writing this...

    I am so sorry. It has been a fairly long time since I have last spoken, but I did not expect you to after reading . During the time indicated here I had been going through a transitionary period with moving alone out of state with other troubles that made it hard to focus or remember what I did or did not do. I had assumed that I had already given your correction since you were already removed from my queue when I started being organized so I proceeded with the others down the list because you were checked somehow.

    I try hard to make sure things are right and I always(at the time) thought I can get out of a situation at a certain time only to be let down because I under estimated my situation as a whole or overestimated my ability to keep up. I was in such a hurry to move away from my failing situation(and I wish I could say more) and I had to make all that money by myself. My inability to organize is what caused most of this. I would have seen  that it was not submitted and since I had not heard I assumed that our business was concluded around a month or 2 after your update post here. That is why I moved on to the next queue. I was not meaning to leave you hanging that way. Initially It was supposed to be a stormy cast so the tones had a reddish hue from the sky. All I had to do was take off the overlay on it, so I did and set it off to the side hoping to submit it same day. I did not purposely forget nor did I want to "not" submit the work. It does not make sense for me to not get the work done when my rep depended on it because I believe the more examples I have , more proof I could do set species for example. I have worked with you before and I feel like utter crap for not making due with what was promised.  I still have the file in my portfolio but even so I want to fix this.

    I did not intend to have people break their trust with me and usually I did fine prior(and after 2019) I now have a built system dedicated to actual work with Display Cal as my screen calibrator. Currently I am doing Telehealth screenings due to covid to manage my mental status to improve and regain my work ethic in the past few months due to being unable to work during surgery next month. I just slow down in the mean time because I am in a way better position.

    I want to set things right just as I had done with the other  queue slots that suffered from my irl issues and do another piece for you with this system with you present as I do it.  I was not made aware of this until just now. I took too many and went too fast jumping over some(although some changed their names on amino so I could no longer find them or I was scammed into doing the work without pay, making me have to take more to make up after having to quit my job at the time to leave. It was too much to handle at the time but given the urgency of the situation I did not think to confirm or slow down to see people not receiving their work. 

    I apologise deeply. I never meant for any of this to happen. If I am able to make things work I really want to. You were wonderful to work with and I screwed up way more than I would like.  I just do not want this to stain everything because I want to get better. It has but in this case I never knew this is what has been festering. Again, I am sorry. Please forgive me. 

    Heya!  It doesn't appear that the OP of this post is following it.  If you'd like to make sure they see this, then it would be best to PM them as well.  🙂

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    8 minutes ago, Celestina said:

    Heya!  It doesn't appear that the OP of this post is following it.  If you'd like to make sure they see this, then it would be best to PM them as well.  🙂

    I hope it gets to them because i never meant to not submit it. I just thought I already did and I went forward..Without their contact info due to random people clouding my dm's and amino it slipped my mind. It was a bad time and my first beware ever. I always wanted to be transparent with people 

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    Koroner

    Leone contacted me via PMs and this was able to be resolved; a new art piece was agreed upon and has been completed now, so I'm happy with this. 

    Just commenting here to let the mods know <: 

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