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1 hour ago, Leongon said:

I'll add that in PayPal's terms of service the seller is not allowed to add that kind of fee, the client could just file a report and get the artist striked.

Which basically means this poll is not including the right option "Yes, no buts"

Most of the staff are seasoned artists with rather intimate knowledge of PayPal's idiosyncrasies. You don't need to inform us of what we already know.

That being said, other artists are not aware of this and are not aware of what the rules even mean so in many cases when a fee is added it's not out of maliciousness. No two interactions are the same, nuance and context is needed for these things, that's why we have 'Yes, but' because this genuinely does matter.

I think it both weakens AB as a service and would do more harm than good for artists and clients alike, if someone were to report someone adding a paypal fee but the artist in question had a very spotless record for turn around, communication and work completion. At that point it's something that could be resolved without our intervention by merely informing the artist that PayPal has a rule for not adding fees that are PayPal only. To assume all artists that add a fee are malicious simply by the fee being there, and to make every single instance caution-able, I think disrupts the integrity of Artist Beware.

Unless the words in the buying contract say something to the effect of 'transfer of ownership' In a clear and legal context, then there is no inherent wholesale transfer of rights to another individual. You cannot use the phrase 'selling the character' to define your argument because these are colloquial terms and are not legally binding terms.

If you handed over a case to a judge and tried to claim 'but they said they were selling a character' and the judge looks over the material and the seller makes a case that they, in no way ever stated or implied, that there was any sort of transfer of ownership of the rights to the images and their likenesses, your whining "But they used the phrase selling a character!!!" won't suddenly make your case.

That being said, most artists need to define the terms they use and make clear language regarding what's being sold. But unless it is clearly stated that the whole and complete rights are sold, and there is a contract involved stating such, then there is no legal transfer of ownership of rights to uphold.

On 4/13/2020 at 9:18 AM, fruity said:

sorry for the late reply, they paid me half for the initial sketch and i'm waiting for the later half to be paid once  they suggest some fixes for the final piece. it's been a few days however. the only possible theory is that maybe he's busy with a lot of things.  since, i'm a naturally paranoid person. should i contact them to make sure.

I sincerely hope you put a huge watermark(s) over your piece. With the remaining payment on the line and it having been more than 17 days now, seeing as you haven't responded to this and I'm unsure if you're still unpaid as far as we know.

I know this has been sitting here for a while but I gotta comment

You build friendships with artists like you would for literally anyone else, through simple interaction and building up more as you find you enjoy each other's company. First, comment on stuff more, for one. Comments are a low impact way of engaging with people and fielding how you two might interact. And I don't mean just compliments, I mean just talking. Everyone is different, how they want to be talked to and what they want to talk about will be different so keep that in mind. But BELIEVE me, artists absolutely notice the people that pop up and say things, especially now when people are more inclined to fave and repost and move on, comments leave such a huge impact and make one feel like they matter enough to be engaged with.

This assumption that some people are 'snobbish' is a complete misconception. Many artists have a lot of anxiety or fears due to previous manipulation by others. Their popularity has brought people to them that have leeched off of them because of their popularity, and seeing something that looks like that again will make them cagey. They will often be more difficult to gain the trust of and that's not a failing of you, personally, and if you take it personally then you probably wouldn't be a good fit for each other, anyway.

But also ask yourself, why do you want to be friends with an artist, specifically. Because their art is good is a pretty flimsy reason, and can lead to more disappointment than anything. You may find that some people you mesh the best with may not even draw the things you like the most. Above all else, being friends with creators means supporting them and their endeavors, because friendship goes beyond just a vector of similar interest. If you cannot support someone with something you may not be interested in then maybe being friends with that person isn't for you. I cannot tell you how soul crushing it is to have people you think are friends, drop you, because you wouldn't draw for them or because you wouldn't create the subject matter they wanted. (which is exactly what leads to so many artists being cagey and slow to trust.)

On 8/30/2019 at 8:43 PM, theodor said:

I would not, but I do feel like the 'donors being protected thing would still be an issue. Would there be a way to combat this, if donations were added?

I do not care if they paid off for this site for years and funded all of our archiving efforts. If they stiffed a client or stiffed an artist they will get no love from me. Donations do not suddenly make a person not responsible for their business.

So, someone decided to respond to this by sending me an anonymous message on tumblr rather than replying here so I'm going to answer here because it makes no sense to answer it on tumblr

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I saw you posted your terms of service and I felt like it left out some important things. No privacy policy (very important for us EU people)

I'll have to read through what the requirements is on that so I know what exact verbiage I'd need. My guess is it'd be something to the effect of making a guarantee you won't misuse privately obtained information but I'll need to make sure.

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no tracking and insurance on traditional media,

Yeah I should have a section for policies regarding shipping in general. I rarely ever do but it would be good to have.

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you don't state your DPI/canvas size, what format clients will get, how much it costs for privacy,

Those details would be on the commission pages themselves, which I have not constructed yet. FYI for the time being, I provide all this information to the clients directly as part of the negotiation process before money even changes hands and I even notate that information in commission invoices for concrete reference for both myself and the client.

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how much it costs to opt out of getting prints made

I'm guessing this is in reference to the possibility of reused work. I'm likely going to be re-working that entirely as I genuinely don't really see myself doing that in the first place.

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if you have fees for character design, examples of major and minor changes, you preferred way of a client initiating a commission request.

Once again, details intended for the commission information pages themselves.

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Also hard to read

Would be nice to have some clarification on this. (such as if the problem is formatting or the actual writing itself)

TY for the rest of the heads up on the stuff I need to add.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r5-BVKNXe85oqHX_DocBzSZpqjTJPINILGj8EpsXdfM/edit#

I've been going through my TOS and would like if anyone could look this over and see if there may be anything I missed or if anything doesn't appear to be clear enough.

I admittedly wouldn't have charged for such a minor edit, however I probably would have asked further clarification questions before I actually made the edit itself. Hearing a request phrased as 'two triangles on the cheek' and nothing more would have made me follow up with 'what do you mean two triangles, do you have examples?' because that's too dang vague to work with and I value my time.

And while I know it was a YCH do you ever show the edit sketch stage before you finish things up to your clients? I feel like this whole thing could have easily been avoided had WIP been shown sooner. I can only speculate of course, seeing as I have no idea what the type of finish was intended for the piece.

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