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Colored sketch received. All done! Still, abnormally long wait and took a bunch of prodding with excuses...I'd tread with caution if you consider art from Ryun unless it's in a sketch stream.

Update: Ryun responded to my note inquiring about attending a stream commish session. Will keep the thread updated if I do receive something or not.

1 hour ago, flucket said:

Okay, well, I don't see how it was "dumbed down" to that when those are literally the only two options here? You can either wait for the commission or ask for a refund. Or I guess give up on seeing your money and your art altogether, but that doesn't sound like a fun result. Forgive me if there's another option I'm not seeing here. ?

And looking at that list of other people waiting for work is... exactly why I'd ask for a refund myself. You posed the hypothetical question "would other people would take a refund after four years", the answer for me would be a resounding yes because at that point even if I got the art, looking at it leave a bitter taste in my mouth. If you're absolutely set on the art, though, I'd recommend being a little less chill and a little more firm. You shouldn't have to be the one chasing the artist around, but as you said, it reads a lot like an artist taking advantage of a very laid back personality to put off giving results, maybe prioritising some of those many other waiting clients who are less chill (This isn't me putting the blame on you in any way, just agreeing that they are probably taking advantage of your attitude).

You're right about me being too lenient.

I suppose 8 years commissioning artists don't let a few bad apples spoil the bushel, so to speak. I've had 2 instances of work taking years, Ryun here and one artist who supposedly ran off with customer's money and disappeared for a few years. Said artist made a return in 2016 after disappearing in 2012 and made good after 4 years of vanishing and completed the entire backlog.

I did go ahead and mention the idea of attending one of those streams to finally have some closure on this commish.

20 minutes ago, Celestina said:

Imo at this point a refund may be your best option. I know she makes more via her sketches than your original commission's cost, and she probably could knock out a refund sketch quicker than completing your image.

Obviously it's not ideal to take more comms to refund comms, but its frustrating to not see you made whole for 4 years.

The annoying part is the "Shaded upgrade" carrot being dangled in front of my face and the constant excuses...also how past commissions were exemplary when it comes to customer service.

[Edited to remove proxy, sorry!]

Maybe pitching to her that I can participate in one of those sketch streams for what was promised or just the original sketch, perhaps?

We're not on bad terms, and I'm thinking from the artist-client relationship's perspective plus spreading awareness of my experience. I even mentioned i was thinking of posting an AB in one of those attached notes!

Additionally, the whole point of AB is to spread awareness to others. This isn't just about a rather small transaction.

24 minutes ago, flucket said:

This is some backwards logic in my opinion. First of all, a commission shouldn't be a competition with a victory state and a defeat state, and if you're at a point where you're viewing it that way, I think it's time to give up the commission personally. Second, asking for your money back and deciding against doing business with someone is exactly how you tell an artist that it's not okay to treat clients like that. Allowing the artist to keep the money indefinitely in some kind of endurance battle to see who gives out first doesn't really translate to "I don't approve of how you treat me as a customer." Refusing to continue to be their customer, by asking for a refund, seems far more effective.

This isn't a fight, this isn't a game of chicken, there's no "defeat", there's just $25 you need to decide if you'd like back or not.

But whatever, that's just me onion.

Yes, it's your own thoughts on the matter and you dumbed it down to "take it or leave it", but c'mon, look at that list of other people waiting for work, too.

The funny part about your first part of this post is she actually gave a bonus sketch back in 2011 for hiding one of my other characters behind a sleigh while most other characters of that holiday themed image were much more visible.

She went from caring about a customer to not.

24 minutes ago, theodor said:

Have you asked for a refund, or are you set on the art? The artists commissioned me, twice, I believe, during your time period, so they can, potentially, refund you.

Asking for a refund after this period of waiting would be admitting defeat and saying it's okay to treat clients like this, to be honest. Would you, after 4 years of waiting?