Eden

1 minute ago, ToastyPoodle said:

I am sorry to hear that you are going through this - but I am "happy" to say that you are not alone. If the moderators would like me to, I would be more than happy to go through and share my entire experience with Nika.

My own commission (also under ToastyPoodle) has been out since July 17, 2020. It sits at a measly 30%, and only because I have hounded to get it that far. I gave her the benefit of the doubt so I am beyond the time that I can dispute this with Paypal - which means I am out $212 for my YCH.

She seems to run a pattern where she vanishes for 2 months, re-appears to sucker a bunch of new people in to claiming art / donations, takes the money, and then vanishes for another 2 months - this cycle has happened a few times now.

It's a shame, because she has the talent to be a great artist, but just... isn't. I would be more than happy to provide all the evidence just as the OP has - here or in a new post. I have everything to lose because I am past a refund, but I really think people should know what they are getting in to. I am grateful for the OP's post because I had been considering starting one for her myself, but I was nervous to do so.

It may be in her TOS that there are no refunds, but it's also in her TOS that she will talk to you and have great communication.... what do you do when the artist breaks their own TOS?

If you've had your own experience leaving comments is fine, but adding to an artist's tag via your own post is better in the long run!

Hey OP!!  Do you have an update?  I hope you escalate that to a claim, and don't let it close.

Going through your YCHs it's obvious that some are offered shading and some are not.  Unfortunately, it's usually important to make sure to list as many details as you can, because there will always be a client who needs those details spelled out.  Sorry you had to learn the hard way.  😞

6 minutes ago, VosurAekira said:

An odd thought to bring up, but since Celestina brought up that talking about negative experiences is protected by law made me think of this possibility: Could a small-claims case be brought up against Bad Coyote / CritterCanvas for the reason of 'accepting payment and not fulfilling contract' (not providing goods promised) due to the amount that was paid?

From what I see, you have: proof of payment, approximate timeline/deadline, and the lack-of-product/lack-of-attempt seems to be a lot of evidence against the said artist.

It may be a bit difficult if the artist and client are within local-distance of each other, but I do wonder if it is a possibility.

Yes but unfortunately the costs a civil case like this would be far more than the cost of the commission itself. 

This attempt by them to intimate their clients is laughable, but par the course for BadCoyote.

Clients speaking out about negative experiences is protected by law. Perhaps BC should actually complete his work if he doesn't want people having to resort to Artists Beware.

And whatever happened to BC "leaving the fandom"?

As we stated on Twitter, we will not be boosting or hosting offsite links as many do not have proof. Additionally, the rules for commenting follow the same rules as the Submission Guidelines: Your comments must be about your own transaction.

If you see someone who has also had an issue encourage them to post here.  Why?

• It allows chronic bewarees to actually start showing up on Google.
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Here is the link to this user's tag:

https://artistsbeware.info/tags/thatdumbfox/

5 minutes ago, bunartist said:

Sorry, but I think youre more in the wrong here. this artist is a 15 year old, for starters- which of course doesnt exempt them from receiving a beware, but i am naturally more hesitant of judgement. 

i do not see how this artist ghosted you, they took awhile to reply- yes, but in these screenshots it shows that you were contacted semi regularly atleast, it doesnt help that you left them with a completed sketch concept for a month for you to turn to them and say you dont want it anymore and you want a refund, and they can just resell it themselves, that is very unfair on the artist especially since theyd already done custom work for you.

i dont take issue with you filing a dispute, especially because of the wait, but i think youre projecting your frustrations of being scammed onto this 15 year old child.

looking through their instagram, their art appears to be the same quality as the custom and i personally feel like youre being overcritical because youre upset with this kid.

i think its honestly really kind that they offered to create you more art for free, they dont owe you that, if its something you want there id be grateful.

Your comment is fine, I just want to point out that this is not a beware. A Caution post should never be taken as the same weight as a beware.

A post was not approved as it contains proxy. Please remember comments must also follow the submission gudelines, and may only be about your transactions.

If anyone knows of others please encourage them to submit their own post. 

This is 3 days shy of our required 3 month minimum wait time, however we've decided to approve this for you.

A comment was not approved.  We do not condone people mass spamming users concerning a bewaree as this is harassment.

In addition, the comments should also follow the Submission Guidelines concerning third party/ proxy.  You may only come and speak about your own transaction.  We do not condone witch hunting or brigading.

If individuals want to help they can forward victims to make a beware on the site.  While we don't mind comments, individual comments do not add to a bewaree's tag weight.  Tag weight determines how high someone shows up on our tag cloud.

1 hour ago, enbii said:

I'm not sure how it works on FA, but have you tried filing a DMCA takedown? They quite literally stole your art...

OP isn't following this thread, so I'm not sure if they will see this. However we did notice the art is gone from the client's gallery. Not sure if OP got it taken down or the base owner as the client wasn't supposed to give the base to others to fill out.

Well, this looks like it's becoming a pattern for this client to behave this way.  For what it's worth, I see little difference between the reference images and what you actually produced.  They also skipped out on paying another person who posted here, so it sounds like they're making a habit of finding excuses not to pay.

We've verified privately that the new email is her's.  While it was shared privately, we've decided due to her name changes to allow it publicly.  The tags will be updated.

1 hour ago, AngelEars said:

I can only hope this user reports them to PayPal then, since it seems that they are hellbent on keeping this policy. I kindly commented on an auction they have running, reminding them that making the buyer cover the fee isn't allowed and can get their account closed and the hid the comment and blocked me, so... :^)

Taking things from here to there is still forbidden despite us being off of LJ. I do not want us to garner a poor reputation by allowing members to touch the poop.

My net is spotty so let's see if this posts

Many of us who operate shops have experienced lost, damaged, and delayed packages due to COVID.  However, for so many packages to go completely lost?  Yea, my money is on the item simply never being shipped.  This is utterly ridiculous.

It's a long shot, but you and everyone affected, can contact Paypal about it.  Many years ago when Pirate-Cashoo had her issues some of her clients managed to get refunds from Paypal long after the window closed.  But it was only because so many people had contacted Paypal concerning her.  (And to be fair to her since I'm name dropping her, Pirate-Cashoo has made good on her owed list since)

1 minute ago, AngelEars said:

It's also against PayPals TOS to make the buyer cover the fee. Isnt that something that can cause their account to be shut down should anyone report it to PayPal?

It most certainly is.  Plus any funds in your account are seized.  Paypal isn't a bank, so they don't have to make it easy for you to reclaim your funds either.

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Any further comments of this nature on this post will be automatically hidden.  We're very sorry for Psy101's loss.  However, OP has not violated any part of our rules and thus their post will stay online.  Being unfortunately timed does not invalidate a 2 year wait.  A post going online now doesn't mean Psy101 has to address it now.

Just now, North said:

Psy's dad died last night. Perhaps the timing here is not appropriate. 

https://www.furaffinity.net/journals/psy101/

Normally, we'd reject this comment because it toes up with Rule 5 (do not imply someone shouldn't have posted).  However, this post has been in queue for a few days now and was only approved today.  OP has no control over when posts are approved.  

47 minutes ago, Romanticponydream said:

I am unsure how to update the original beware but I feel this is something that also should be shown.

It seems Mike (I called them cubert because I did not know their name) has found the beware and basically left out their response as made me look like a terrible person. They are also allowing their followers to call me names and left out that they did not disclose their queue or have any public place where I could have looked. I had no idea their queue was that long and if I did I would have not commissioned them.

Over all I am feeling awful....as someone who also suffers from mental health issues I was hoping for some understanding and patience. But now I am worried I will be harassed. I feel silly being upset. But I simply cant help it.

 

Users do not have the ability to edit their own posts.  However, we will not be tacking this onto the main post as you are not named, and the artist is welcome to vent in their own space.

With that said, if the artist escalates by dropping your name publicly and instructing people to harass you this will automatically be upgraded to a beware.

For the artist:  You admit your queue is long, and your client claims there is no public queue.  Rather than being angry with them for you dropping the ball, please make a public queue so potential clients can decide if they want to risk a long wait.  70 commissions is a ridiculous amount of work, and it's unethical to be upset when clients aren't willing to wait for you to move through so many commissions.  Come on now.

1 minute ago, Vinfang said:

she has recently seen reposting her old threads on FAF after the forum came back online.

Do you have a link to her profile?  Or is it the same as the one in the "where" section?  That way we can boost that she's active again on twitter.

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