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  • Caution: EylonFerrousa


    SukariDragon
    • Who: @EylonFerrousa
      Where: @EylonFerrousa on Telegram
      https://www.furaffinity.net/user/eylonferrousa/
      https://twitter.com/KumaHontosha?lang=en
      @KumaHontosha on Telegram
      https://twitter.com/zeuzvalein?lang=en
      http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zeuzvalein/
      When: 04/01/2019
      What: Commission



    Message added by James

    This has been moved to Client Cautions as no money has exchanged hands.

    Hi there~ This is my first post on here, so sorry if I don't do everything right ;0; Just had a pretty intense interaction with a buyer, so I'd like to warn anyone who may come into contact with him.

    I contacted EylonFerrousa on Telegram after he had made several posts in a few chats we shared looking for an artist to draw his dragon character. His budget was $40 and I was willing to work with that. I generally do commissions differently than most (this experience has made me change my methods, however); I usually try to complete the sketch before requiring payment, so after receiving a text description of the dragon he wanted drawn, I got to work and made a few sketches with minimal tweaking. Once I had gotten it to a point that I thought would be good enough to go forward with, I sent it to him but didn't receive any response for well over a week. I sent a quick "hey just checking in" message, and he informed me that some things had come up and he needed to cancel the commission. No biggie, life happens, and I totally understand ? I said as much, but mentioned that because I had spent quite a long time on that sketch, I would probably recycle the pose to fit one of my dragon characters that I had been meaning to draw (I would not be stealing his character, just using the pose and anatomy that I had spent around an hour perfecting on his dragon to make drawing mine go quicker) He was irked by this, saying that he'd rather I not reuse it, since he would be using the sketch. After I insisted that he did not own that sketch since he had not paid for it, he responded, saying that in his ToS (apparently commissioners have ToS's? I haven't heard of this) he claims that all art drawn for him belongs exclusively to him, whether he's paid for it or not. This alone is something you can't enforce, as artists own the art that they draw, especially art that hasn't been paid for, but prior to this, the idea of him having a ToS was never brought up, mentioned, or linked to. If he really did have such a ridiculous condition in his ToS, this should have been the first thing brought up. He then proceeded to go on a bit of a tirade, claiming that if I did anything to that piece, he would have full grounds to sue me, and he ensured me that I "didn't want a lawsuit on my hands." I responded, practically refuting everything he said, and I promptly blocked him. I have the entire chat screenshotted (good thing too, because he nuked the chat as soon as I replied to his lawsuit threats), but the only truly important parts are the end where things got heated, and I'll put my response in there as well just for a little closure. I'll include them below, but if any more info is requested, I'd be more than happy to provide it. I'll also put in the original message he had sent when looking for artists to draw his dragon, as well as the sketch of the dragon I completed as proof that I had done the work in the first place.

    Unfortunately, I seem to have missed the text he sent me after his long tirade about suing me; he made sure to mention that he had business to attend to with the CEO of Hasbro (an obvious scare tactic, and a poor one at that). 

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    The only TOS I have when commissioning other people, is that they have 90 days to complete the work and get it to me, or I will process a refund through paypal. There is no reason at ALL as to why someone cannot get a piece done in 3 months. If you as a commissioner have taken on so much work that your queue is over 3 months long, you are already in for trouble.

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    Wanted to comment this as a subsequent warning. 

    https://www.furaffinity.net/user/zeuzvalein/

    @ZeuzValein

    Is EylonFerrousa and secondary accounts of theirs. They are actively seeking commissions and seem to still be displaying this sort of behavior. I was contacted by Elyon a while after blocking the secondary account (this one) after finding this beware and almost doing business with them. To which I ignored and they quickly cleared the chat box and blocked me realizing they had given themselves away.

    This is their alias and the other name they go under.

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    @SilverNares

    Howdy! Your comment was not approved as secondary accounts must have definite proof provided that they are the same person. Only same name, same email, or same characters/ art. Were you able to grab screenshots before they deleted?

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    Changed Where to @EylonFerrousa on Telegram
    https://www.furaffinity.net/user/eylonferrousa/
    https://twitter.com/KumaHontosha?lang=en
    @KumaHontosha on Telegram
    https://twitter.com/zeuzvalein?lang=en
    http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zeuzvalein/

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