Alright, I'm not going to beat around the bush here. This guy, NeonGlowHusky, or Sun_Burnt_Wolf as he's now known as, He claims adoptables, but then when it comes time to pay up, he has to put it off for another date. Not only this, but he couldn't make up his mind. He's blown up my PM's with either, "NSFW on." Or "Clean only."
It was July 13th, and he said he would pay me for some adoptables on the 27th, which is when he would get his next payday. (Totally fine with me.) {... I totally forgot this place had existed, and didn't save the quote...}
When it was the 27th, he tells me he will pay on the 10th of August. Why? Oh simply because he had bills, and other adoptables. ... (TBH, I would've been fine with the honest, i had bills. But the adoptable thing? No.) I was trying to be nice to the guy, and sound understanding as possible. (Pictures are attached) I tell him that I won't start until I am paid. He said that was fine.
And then, I ask a couple days later if we were still on for the 10th of August. He tells me we are still on. (Cool cool, right?)
And he buys a small 6$ adoptable from me, with a gender swap. So. I do the edit for him.
And THEN AGAIN, he changes the date, to a LATER one. Why did he do it this time? Simply because he THEN owed someone 50$
At that point, I was done. Fed up. I was tired of the run around. I was tired of empty "Promises." I gave him a piece of my mind. (In a kind way of course!)
At a later point, he buys a 10$ adoptable. (Pretty good.)
And then, he tries to buy MORE adoptables. (i'm all for having my adoptables bought, but don't ask for an adopt if you don't have the funds!)
The adoptable total was going to be 70$. He asked to drop one of the adoptables, and grab the other two. (Totally fine with me!)
And then.. He gives me this journal: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8852160/
And he needed them on hold until September 21st. That was all fine and dandy until I needed my bus pass for college. So. I told him that I couldn't hold them.
About... I wanna say a week later, he notes me this journal: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8852430/ and he pays me the next day later. ?
And then about another week or two later, he tells me he can't pay me for another adoptable he claimed from me because of a car crash. (... I know this is serious, but... At this point with him, I can't really believe anything he tells me.) I go to one of the people he's commissioned, and asked them if he's ever cancelled more than once. And they said yes.
To make things worse, he's trying to sell his old sona, and move to a new account. I got curious and looked at his journals. One of them stood out to me.
This one: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8933574/
So, to all you adoptable makers, or artists, PLEASE do not sell to him. He will not pay/or will keep you on hold until the next year. (If he does, he will pay when HE'S ready.)
In February of 2018 I posted a tweet asking if any artists were open for commissions. I was contacted via DM by Shroomyeen (who sent me their prices). After looking at their art I agreed to purchase a $15 flat colour commission:
Proof of payment:
(The commission itself was $15, but I tipped $10 plus extra to cover Paypal fees - this is why the amount sent is $26.06)
I began noticing some red flags not long after sending payment. Shroomyeen would constantly take on new work without finishing owed commissions first. This made me uncomfortable, but I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt as they seemed to be going through a tough time financially.
In September of 2018, I finally asked for an update. Shroomyeen told me they'd simply forgotten to share the WIP sketch and would send it when they "got home":
That was the last time I heard from them. I've sent a few more DMs since then and have even resorted to publicly tagging them once or twice with no luck. Despite being very active on Twitter, I've yet to receive a response from them. They appear to be ignoring me.
Please note that I mistakenly asked for A $20 refund in the second DM. The commission was only $15, I tipped $10. I don't mind letting them keep that money since it was my decision to tip, but I'd like to get my $15 back.
Around this time, Shroomyeen switched Twitter accounts (@Lildogmeat). I wouldn't have even realised if one of our mutual followers hadn't retweeted something from their alt. I sent them a message on January 17th giving them one final chance to provide either proof that they're working on my commission or a refund, or I'd be contacting Paypal to get a refund.
Unfortunately, I wasn't aware of Paypal's 180-day window for filing disputes, so I'm no longer eligible for a refund. By writing this beware, I'm hoping to save others from making the same mistakes as me!
Please be wary if you decide to commission Shroomyeen/Lildogmeat. They seem to have a history of doing this to their customers which is a shame as they're a very talented artist. If they refund my money or complete the artwork, I'll consider this resolved, but I don't think they intend to do either.
hyndrim (hyndrim) wrote in artists_beware,
@ 2019-01-22 09:10
Subject: Beware: Werewolf-kun
Where:
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/werewolf-kun/
https://twitter.com/werewolfkun
https://werewolf-kun.tumblr.com/
When: August 10 2018
Proof:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/55ckejsexz3sspt/AADNpTopkcnP3rc-ijEk8b1Ma?dl=0
Explain:
While at Furrydelphia I was looking to grab a new badge while waiting in line for the dealer's den to open up one person in front of me recommended Werewolf-kun to do the badge, after looking at what everyone else had to offer I grabbed a full body badge from them.
The next day, me and the person I'm rooming with went into the dealer's den again just to look around and the artist noticed me and said the badge would get done by Sunday which I honestly was exacting based on the last I gotten.
Skipping to the last day and about 30mins until the den was closed, I saw them nearly packed up and asked what's going on with the badge.
Artist said their laminator broke, would have to finish it at home and would put in a few stickers and/or buttons as compensation for the extra wait. In hindsight I should have just asked for it as is and could have it laminated myself.
Little over a week later (August 19th.) the artist got in touch with me on telegram stating they been working like crazy since they got back from the con, didn't think to much of it since my job was doing the same thing. Told me they would have it shipped out starting that Wednesday.
Was able to get a hold of the artist on December 18th however things that where said didn't line up with things mentioned at the con or what little was said on telegram along with the last I checked the school holiday break only lasted till the new year.
At this point giving them five weeks to get the badge done when they said they could have it done by Sunday at the con, failing to ship it out the first time and should have said the badge got damaged when/if it happened. If I didn't pay in cash I would have called my credit card company and forced a refund awhile ago.
I decided to write this review of my experience with Furfancy costumes, after my paypal case
has finally closed. I feel it's important to share my experience so other people might not end up
in my situation, and I hope that Furfancy will learn from their mistakes and improve on their
customer service and communication skills in the future.
A little background information that goes before the situation that in the end led to a Paypal
chargeback of 373$.
I have previously commissioned Furfancy for 2 of her big cat expanding foam bases. These two
bases were commissioned 10/10 2017 and 14/1 2018. Both bases were in perfect condition
upon arrival and I was very happy with the quality and looks of these bases. However, I did
have some communication issues with Furfancy during this time (lack of updates, slow to no
responses) and it took about 1 month before the bases were shipped out.
I have described this more in detail in the overview timeline I’m posting after this section. At the time I didn’t think too
much about it but it did worry me a bit, but since I in the end did get my product and I was happy
about it I wanted to commission them again when they offered more bases for sale through
Twitter summer 2018, and this is where things went terribly wrong.
Furfancy foam base issue timeline
10/10 2017 - Ordering 1 foam base
23/10 2017 - Asking for updates (no response)
2/11 2017 - Asking for updates (no response)
3/11 2017 - Gets answer from Furfancy
10/11 2017 - Contacts to confirm shipping
11/11 2017 - Shipping confirmed
23/11 2017 - Base arrives
14/1 2018 - Ordering second foam base
1/2 2018 - Asking if the base has been shipped
3/2 2018 - Get a picture of the base in a box
5/2 2018 - Base gets shipped
13/2 2018 - Base arrives
19/7 2018 - Ordering 2 foam bases
31/7 2018 - Contacting to ask if they have received payment. It gets confirmed its recieved.
6/9 2018 - Asking for update and ordering an extra additional base. Also pay more shipping for
all 3 bases to be shipped together
19/11 2019 - Asking for update (no response)
20/11 2018 - Asking for update again (no response)
29/11 2018 - Asking for refund (no response)
3/12 2018 - Asking for refund again. Tries to work out a private payment plan with first payment
in January.
5/1 2019 - Contact seller asking for status of refund (no response)
6/1 2019 - Contacting again because no response (still no response)
8/1 2019 - Doing a PayPal dispute and first here do I get an reaction
11/1 2019 - Pushes for a PayPal claim due to no response on the dispute
21/1 2019 - Paypal closes the case, ruling in my favour due to Furancy failing to respond or
provide additional proof regarding the transaction.
Now, I am terrible sorry this had to go this way, but I am very unhappy with how this business
transaction has been treated. I have attached the entire conversation which took place on
Telegram as proof of my statements. Sadly I have friends who had similar experience as me,
although they either didn't get their items all together or they arrived damaged. While it's not my
place to speak their case, their experiences combined and my own I felt I had to speak up about
this issue.
The only reason I pushed the Paypal case was because my 180 days buyer protection was
running out. It was around 170 days past when I made the dispute and with failing
communication or any sign of a refund I decided to go through with it while I still had a chance to
get my money back.
Furfancy has a super adorable style, I love their suits and I admire the craftsmanship. But as a
professional I had expected more and better communication and customer service. I felt I was
often left in the dark and felt forced to ask for any updates (both product wise and shipping wise)
and that should be communicated better from Furfancy. This is not an attack on their person (I
don’t know them) but it's a critique of their lacking professionalism as a business.
Pictures of the conversation below. Please note the dates.
Tank (the owner of JuicySuits) and I originally started talking about my fursuit commission on January 10, 2018, with a quote of $2,300 for the fursuit and a deadline of July 4, 2018 (Anthrocon).
https://i.imgur.com/WU14QwD.jpg
I made the full payment on January 30, 2018, with progress on the suit starting in March.
https://i.imgur.com/5uNF9Rp.jpg
Tank told me there was a digital sculpt underway, but I never received any screenshots or proof of this.
https://i.imgur.com/azGafKb.jpg
Duct Tape Dummy was requested on March 25, and she received it on April 2.
https://i.imgur.com/4DoJqcQ.jpg
My first and only work in progress picture I received was sent on June 10. It was the buckram painting for the eyes.
https://i.imgur.com/TxsHLm5.jpg
On July 3 – the day before Anthrocon and the deadline – I find out via Twitter that Tank will not be attending the convention. I have to bring up the elephant in the room about the unfinished suit and she apologizes, but confirms that it will not be done in time.
https://i.imgur.com/rcEGhZ1.jpg
We make a rough deadline of 1-2 months from that point in time, for pickup. That would put the deadline at August or September.
https://i.imgur.com/6CObsH5.jpg
I hear nothing from her until September 11, when I am informed that not only has no additional work been started on my suit, but that I’ve been actually bumped back in the queue. Please note, my original deadline was two months earlier, and she’s putting other people ahead of me.
https://i.imgur.com/aOUO6Ax.jpg
I request a refund on September 11 because I am uncomfortable with the two missed deadlines and lack of communication. On September 20, Tank promises to send me every payment made by the person replacing my spot in the queue.
https://i.imgur.com/cCfCkQe.jpg
On October 9, Tank tells me that she can’t pay me because the new commissioner has missed their payments. However, she offers to take out a loan to pay me back in full ASAP.
https://i.imgur.com/g4SFAls.jpg
Tank tells me that her loan is almost paid off on November 9, which means she should be able to get a new loan and pay me back soon.
https://i.imgur.com/Uld9Tjw.jpg
On December 18, I demand progress on the refund. She replies on December 19, telling me that she should be able to pay off her loan soon, but she can get money together for some payment before the end of the month.
https://i.imgur.com/SqOVshU.jpg
January 1 hits, and Tank tells me the loan is paid off and she can get a new loan to refund me, though it will take three days to process.
https://i.imgur.com/v6SYS14.jpg
On January 11, she writes me a message, saying that her new loan was declined, and she will not be able to refund me in one large sum. I agree to payment plans of $200 biweekly, as I feel like there’s not much more I can do, and she promises that the first payment will come through on January 18.
https://i.imgur.com/oTCAiHQ.jpg
It's January 18, and I’ve heard nothing from her. I messaged her, asking for an update, but received no response.
I have tried giving her multiple deadlines, either for the suit or a refund, all of which she has missed over the timeframe of a year. At this point, I just want my money back as soon as possible.
charliessd (charliessd) wrote in artists_beware,
@ 2019-01-15 12:09
Solomon King Thompson
WHO :
his nickname is Solomon King Thompson / siwell16 aka Nigel Porter, etc you name it. In this case, the commissioner / client has committed a theft. He has a lot of different names. He contacted me by this email
[email protected]
[email protected] (his paypal)
WHERE :
https://www.freelancer.com/u/siwell16
https://plus.google.com/u/0/117527282677078313904?prsrc=4
WHAT :
Digital art for business purpose (t-shirt design for mass produce)
WHEN :
September 18th, 2018
EXPLAIN :
hello, i have been scammed by a client recently. I thought i want to share it with the others artist to warn them.He first approached me via 3rd party work website & then contacted my email called [email protected] / Solomon King Thompson . He was looking for artist with anime style to design his t-shirt, he saw my portfolio & interested in working with me. I replied him that i can work with him if agreed with my ToS. I gave him the link to my price list & ToS in it (which stated that the client has to pay right away after i showed them the first draft)
He used a trick where he paid for the first work and then he said he's very satisfied with my work & asking for more commission, pretending wanted to work with me for a long term. The first commission went pretty smoothly (even though he's bit late for the payment). After the first commission was completed, he asked for the second one. I quote him $XX+ for the work & he agreed and said will do the payment soon. For the second commission i gave him the work first because he need the work to be completed asap (next week) and promised to pay on Friday (2 Oct 2018) & i thought he can be trusted since it's his second commission , yet on the due date there’s no news came from him.
He didn't reply after i gave him the work & asking for payment. He replied in between 8 Oct when i asked if he wanted to cancel the commission after that, he didn't bother to open & reply my email from 12 Oct - 29 Oct 2019. He only replied after i warned him that if he doesn't reply my message shortly after 24hr I will make this public. I've been really generous to extend his payment due more than 10 weeks. What makes it worse, recently he open a dispute/report to his previous payment that make my account got locked for some reason & i can't access my paypal, despite i have sent the high-resolution file & he said he satisfied with my work.
He chooses to run away from his problem & didn’t even try to resolve it until now thus i decided to make this public so you can watch out for him if he's approaching you.
if any of you were commissioned him by any chance. It'll be safer to just reject him. Don't fall for his trick pretending to be a good client. He only “paid” for the first work just to make us trust him (also his paypal email look way too fishy [email protected]) . He might be still out there looking an artist to draw him 2B, bowsette & another lewd female character ..for his T-shirt design ..
*edit 2019 : I saw an upwork post stating looking for lewd anime style character for t-shirt here https://www.upwork.com/jobs/_~014e58b8f2f291e674/. Please be warry. From what i know according to the conversation we had he need 4 design for his t-shirt. I have completed one and a half of the design. So there are 2-3 design left needed. If any of you see this image used around for merchandise please let me know
https://imgur.com/M8lzaEb
https://imgur.com/BOEQU0i
PROOF :
https://i.imgur.com/XKkUeAu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dhIOZxR.png
https://i.imgur.com/DKXE6ro.png
https://i.imgur.com/uNzneHW.png
https://i.imgur.com/PPnbApE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4Qf0L4X.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RvMLYzg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pHb4C3S.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/D8pvVKz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xteyNOo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UVPcb9B.png
https://i.imgur.com/8zJcJQS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eSu4T5H.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LfZ07SE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kVfGzPo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Wfj7rPI.jpg
justcheezit (justcheezit) wrote in artists_beware,
@ 2019-01-14 17:59
Commissioner beware: Loftyk9
WHO: Loftyk9
WHERE: Tumblr/Fur Affinity
WHAT: 4 part sketch sequence/ mini comic
WHEN: Nov. 16th 2018 - Jan. 6th 2019
EXPLAIN: I did a commission for Loftyk9 back in November 16th of 2018; of which hadn't been paid for until January 6th of 2019. Initially they had an error with the payment due to an unstable connection,I had given them time to rectify this error as I had other clients drafts to handle. More hindrances came about, ranging from being in the hospital,handling holiday related expenses and once again running into more transaction errors when reminded of the invoice a month and a half after the commission had been completed. I will openly admit to having handled it poorly on my behalf by not enforcing my pay up front policy; however, having given them more than enough time to have the transaction handled, being promised it would be handled at the moment of being reminded,and finally being told of a similar transaction error or simply getting no response until asked again, their credibility has been damaged and I'm unable to say that they're pleasant to do business with.
PROOF: Gallery detailing the initial transaction,error and eventual resolving https://imgur.com/a/afyOXUR
ryai1 (ryai1) wrote in artists_beware,
@ 2019-01-12 21:15
Commissioner Beware - Lemonadeadopts
WHO:
Lemonadeadopts
WHERE:
FurAffinity: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/lemonadeadopts/
WHAT:
4-page multi-panel comic
WHEN:
September 17th — January 2019
EXPLAIN:
Primarily I commissioned Lemonadeadopts back in September after a previous commission. I had received a deadline of October for this one but sadly that was delayed. I questioned the artist about it a few times after that and the days kept getting pushed further and further back before finally when it came to being asked last week (after failing to complete the commission back on Christmas) as they promised to complete it Monday. They were not in discussion at all and I'm afraid I felt as if I was waiting way too long without any real response so I had to issue a refund.
Following months of asking for updates or any signs of life and only being pushed back more and more and more, I'm a bit exhausted of waiting... I'm tired of attempting to comment or note them to little avail until they say "Hey, my internet was out for x long." But, as an artist myself you don't really need the internet to use most programs or continue drawing.
PROOF:
https://i.imgur.com/0TIydmg.png (Proof of downpayment / half payment for full price)
https://imgur.com/a/igMIQGy (proof of initial transaction and any updates to reach me by Sunday back in October)
( Read more... )
https://i.imgur.com/jIrM6Py.png (Note transactions promising they'd get the commission done back in December 'in 3-days' and then "dedicating Monday to finishing it" just yesterday, there was no response from the artist all of Monday)
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I bid and spent $61 on a ych from Alirras, little knowing that I was supporting a tracer.
They've traced over a piece of art from vexstacy. vexstacy original
I took my 15 year old granddaughter to her first fur con on October 28th. After circling the Dealers Den many times she commissioned this artist to do a badge of her fursona. She paid Zrcalo $15 cash for a gold badge. A photo was taken of her fursona and information was written down in their ledger, ie name, address, special details. Communications have all taken place afterwards on Twitter. I think the copies of this communication will speak for its self. As of today, Jan 7, 2019, the last communications I sent, Dec. 30, 2018, has been ignored by Zrcalo. At this point other furries have come forward to compensate my granddaughter with their kindness. I do not want anything from Zrcalo. I want others to be aware of their unprofessional business practice.
